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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #90 on: July 07, 2016, 11:37:52 AM »

if you read the BBC text now looks like he has got in because of a ton against Middx in the last match with roland jones bowling.....

I like him as a player but just cant see how he has done enough at the moment....

Bayliss clearly wanted stokes and/or Buttler to play as batsmen if you read the press in the last 3 days....

the selectors say Ballance is 'mentally tough' I hope that is not a reflection on Compton who gave it his best shot
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #91 on: July 07, 2016, 11:38:14 AM »

Good to see Ballance back, fresh off a ton so why not pick the man in form!! Roland-Jones proved yesterday he's no mug with the bat either!!
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #92 on: July 07, 2016, 11:42:22 AM »

Also whilst Bayliss has said Root would have to want to bat 3 I can only envisage he's being forced to...
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« Reply #93 on: July 07, 2016, 11:46:25 AM »

Also whilst Bayliss has said Root would have to want to bat 3 I can only envisage he's being forced to...

I think you got that dead right. Bayliss says he must want to do it, he clearly does not......

someone has had a word in his ear I think. Bayliss says yo'ure best bat is 3......KP never did.

Got to be honest I think Root should bat 3 and let Vince and Balance bat 4 and 5....

but pushing Root into something he may not want to do might affect him. Batting so much in the mind it could work against Root......
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #94 on: July 07, 2016, 11:58:11 AM »

Also whilst Bayliss has said Root would have to want to bat 3 I can only envisage he's being forced to...

yep for me the issue with picking Ballance is actually more than just picking him as a player and his technique will be exposed to left arm swinging deliveries that were his undoing before. It means you are possibly opening up Root to the new ball (being used by 2 quality new ball bowlers). 
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #95 on: July 07, 2016, 12:59:19 PM »

That moment when you win over the selectors

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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #96 on: July 07, 2016, 01:08:37 PM »

That moment when you win over the selectors




Good Ol' Gazza. I'm glad he's back in the team, mostly because he always looks so puzzled when he gets out...

Watch him go big, smashing Amir to all parts.
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #97 on: July 07, 2016, 03:31:22 PM »

looking forward to seeing how Balance gets on, he is going to play.

High class bowling gets batsmen out, that's why bowlers are such a precious commodity on todays generally flat tracks. He's got technical issues....but.....so has just about everyone else. Cook,Compton,Trott,and  Root gets out a lot left arm bowled across him....

End of the day it's got to be about runs scored, he's going to get an examination and so are the rest of our batters....

I saw enough of Graeme Smith and his awful technique get absolute  bucketfuls against us...so flaws in technique never stopped him.
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #98 on: July 07, 2016, 03:57:11 PM »

Despite his record this season, I imagine his 1200 runs @ 47 and a FC average of 50 also help his case. Proven run scorer.
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #99 on: July 07, 2016, 04:01:08 PM »

So looks as though the starting line up is likely to be.......

Cook
Hales
Root
Vince
Ballance (swap 3-5 around as required)
Bairstow
Ali
Woakes
Broad
Ball
Finn

12th man: Roland-Jones

Unless R-J gets the nod ahead of Ball?
Stokes obviously not fit enough to bat and bowl!
Buttler not in either.
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #100 on: July 07, 2016, 04:11:30 PM »

roland jones home ground, he knows the slope and vagries of the pitch.

that might tip it in his favour. Ball has been 12th man though for a while. close call between them I reckon.

Root is 3 Pete whether he wants to bat there or not !
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #101 on: July 10, 2016, 01:10:55 PM »

So Ball and Roland Jones are the next cabs off the rank re pace bowlers . Just wanted to ask you guys ( England fans) , how far away from test cricket is Tymal Mills ? Also , why has Mark Wood seemingly dropped off the radar ? ( don't  mind me ,   I'm just asking as I'm an Aussie who's not quite up to speed on my English quicks knowledge at the moment ) .
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #102 on: July 10, 2016, 01:47:59 PM »

Mills can only play T20 due to a medical condition. Pretty sure Wood is injured
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #103 on: July 10, 2016, 03:13:05 PM »

So Ball and Roland Jones are the next cabs off the rank re pace bowlers . Just wanted to ask you guys ( England fans) , how far away from test cricket is Tymal Mills ? Also , why has Mark Wood seemingly dropped off the radar ? ( don't  mind me ,   I'm just asking as I'm an Aussie who's not quite up to speed on my English quicks knowledge at the moment ) .

Tymal Mills has some form of back condition that doctors have said he shouldn't put under too much stress of 4 day cricket etc. Mark Wood has had two operations on his ankle and is in fact bowling today for the first time back in a T20 game against Leicestershire!
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Re: England vs Pakistan
« Reply #104 on: July 10, 2016, 05:33:12 PM »

So looks as though the starting line up is likely to be.......

Cook
Hales
Root
Vince
Ballance (swap 3-5 around as required)
Bairstow
Ali
Woakes
Broad
Ball
Finn

12th man: Roland-Jones

Unless R-J gets the nod ahead of Ball?
Stokes obviously not fit enough to bat and bowl!
Buttler not in either.

Buttler broke a thumb Friday night so doubt he'll be fit for the one day stuff either!
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