Topic: Batting at Eversley 10th July 2016 (Read 3258 times)

WalkingWicket37 · « **on:** July 11, 2016, 10:18:02 PM »

Hi Al

Being the selfish git I am I only recorded myself batting in the CBF net yesterday (restricted by limited memory and battery in the camera).
My camera actually stopped recording after 9 minutes so I have lost most of the footage I thought I'd recorded

Here is the footage of me "bating" against the bowling machine.
I've hardly faced a ball this season, and it shows...

https://youtu.be/WGzBhpctJ_Q

I need to edit the footage of me facing actual bowlers and I'll upload that at some point in the future.

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 11, 2016, 10:38:25 PM »

Having just watched this back for the first time myself I cas see straight away my foot movement is poor to non existent. Not batting for 4 weeks doesn't seem to do my technique any good!

I can now see I need to net more often and get my feet moving again. I'm just hoping there's no more heavy rain to flood my clubs outdoor nets...

smilley792 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 12, 2016, 05:11:26 AM »

You look a little stiff. Too a point nothing looks natural.

It's like you've read lots and lots of coaching books and implemented everything.

Ready and
1
2
Back lift
3
4
Bend knees.
Keep bat straight.
Play late under nose.
Hold the pose
5
6
And reset.

It may be hard if you've been doing that for a long time, but try and have a net where your not thinking. Take a random starting stance and just play naturally at everything and see what comes.

Oh and change your grip set up.

Northern monkey · « **Reply #3 on:** July 12, 2016, 05:41:26 AM »

Don't beat yourself up mate
You batted fine against us lot

Only thing I kinda remember is, you tended to get tied up with balls pitching leg ish
Anything on off stick was put away
Maybe open your stance, or bat on leg stick?
I'm no coach, so I'm sure there's a lot more constructive advice out there

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 12, 2016, 09:07:05 AM »

Quote from: smilley792 on July 12, 2016, 05:11:26 AM

You look a little stiff. Too a point nothing looks natural.

It's like you've read lots and lots of coaching books and implemented everything.

Ready and
1
2
Back lift
3
4
Bend knees.
Keep bat straight.
Play late under nose.
Hold the pose
5
6
And reset.

It may be hard if you've been doing that for a long time, but try and have a net where your not thinking. Take a random starting stance and just play naturally at everything and see what comes.

Oh and change your grip set up.

Having not batted for 4 weeks nothing felt natural!

I haven't actually looked at any additional coaching material, I am just trying to implement the advice given to me by @Buzz

On the contrary to having a "don't think net" this video has helped me identify that my feet aren't moving. I'd be better off (in my opinion, anyway) having a net where I lead with my head to try and get my feet moving, rather than pressing at the ball.

And what about this video makes you think I need to change my grip setup?

Quote from: Northern monkey on July 12, 2016, 05:41:26 AM

Don't beat yourself up mate
You batted fine against us lot

Only thing I kinda remember is, you tended to get tied up with balls pitching leg ish
Anything on off stick was put away
Maybe open your stance, or bat on leg stick?
I'm no coach, so I'm sure there's a lot more constructive advice out there

Looking back at the video I wasn't moving my feet at all. Anything on or outside off I could hit just backing my hands and eyes. Anything on leg I was getting stuck on the crease and in a tangle round my front pad.

I think it's a fairly simple tweak. Move my effing feet instead of standing like a statue and I'll find it easier.

Northern monkey · « **Reply #5 on:** July 12, 2016, 09:26:19 AM »

Again only my thoughts,
The thing is with the bowling machines, there are no triggers for seeing the ball
You have so little time to react and get in position
I struggled like owt, ended up with the machine on 50mph
The second go I had, I just played a shot knowing the ball was going to be there
You'd never get that with a bowler on grass wickets.

Facing a bowler you have so much more time to pick the ball etc

Forgot to say, the moving feet thing, try and lead with your head
It's the same with most ball sports, to get the clean contact and ultimately the power , the head has to lead and hopefully be over the ball

procricket · « **Reply #6 on:** July 12, 2016, 09:52:55 AM »

My theory Cammy is this

Do you enjoy cricket at the minute.

Would your enjoyment improve if you scored a few more runs ??

If so leave off buying kit for a while get a few one on ones and I suspect a lot of your issues will be sorted.

You have a few basic errors which could be fixed easily I think.

But if your happy with cricket don't worry and keep enjoying

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 12, 2016, 10:02:08 AM »

Quote from: procricket on July 12, 2016, 09:52:55 AM

My theory Cammy is this

Do you enjoy cricket at the minute.

Would your enjoyment improve if you scored a few more runs ??

If so leave off buying kit for a while get a few one on ones and I suspect a lot of your issues will be sorted.

You have a few basic errors which could be fixed easily I think.

But if your happy with cricket don't worry and keep enjoying

Ironically it's since I had a one to one with my clubs head coach I've not been able to get bat on ball! Worse �30 I've ever spent cricket wise

I've spotted the biggest issue, so as I said above and Northern suggested, I'll have a net where I lead with my head to see if things improve.

As far as enjoyment goes, I'm a bowler who likes to bat. After breaking my thumb and not being able to play due to illness at the start of the season, then the crap weather causing fixtures to be cancelled I'm just glad to get a game! I'm bowling alright at the moment so (other than not winning any games!) I'm enjoying my cricket. A few runs would be nice, but so would a lottery win!

edge · « **Reply #8 on:** July 12, 2016, 10:05:00 AM »

One strange trait I noticed is that you bend your legs in your stance and when the ball is delivered, but then at the point of impact you pop straight back up again, every time! So regardless of type of delivery or shot, you're pretty much standing bolt upright at the moment you hit the ball. So I'd agree you look like you're forcing it a bit, especially as you don't seem to have any backlift or backswing to speak of? So maybe just having a relaxed net would be a good move, try and get some more natural feeling into your batting?

procricket · « **Reply #9 on:** July 12, 2016, 10:05:30 AM »

Your biggest issue is your movement away from the ball pal

Your head can't lead because you move towards square leg.

You start with your stance and move backwards.

Watch you back leg it shouldn't move towards square leg.

Yes I'm a massive fan of head movement and shoulder alignment but you need to get in line for the head tilt to work

Biggest issue with coaching is it not a quick fix and the issue sometimes results wise will get worst before they get better.

Had a few sessions couple with mr Palmer and various others sometimes it does get worst before it gets better.

Anyway you seem to be enjoying what you do so fair play to you buddy.

Hell what do I know about batting hopefully be down south very soon so always up for a net

petehosk · « **Reply #10 on:** July 12, 2016, 10:12:09 AM »

I had a 1-2-1 with a ex-Middlesex opener and coach and in 1 hour he improved my technique no end by a couple of tiny tweaks!
I have been taking a large step and therefore being too upright anotd n able to get my head over the ball. And also it meant I was pushing at the ball and playing uppish as I was too upright. Also I was getting in line too early which didn't account for any swing which would be a problem when trying to play a high quality bowler like Brucie who swings it round corners

Also lost balance easily!

All he did was ensured that I shortened my step, dipped my shoulder and led with my head. The difference it made was incredible! I was also a little too open so he sorted that out too. All in all, it may not make a blind bit of difference to my poor form this season but I guess I will find out soon enough!

Cam - I suspect that you could do the same mate. One hour with a decent coach would help immensely although I do rather like your upright and elegant style! Very W.G Grace Sir!!!!

Northern monkey · « **Reply #11 on:** July 12, 2016, 10:20:19 AM »

And cam, please don't post owt of my agricultural northern slogging
I don't think I'd ever put pads on again, if I saw how I bat!ha

pie-man · « **Reply #12 on:** July 12, 2016, 10:21:36 AM »

Who am I to have an opinion here - I'm a bowler! However, if you watch the video it is noticeable how still the bloke next to you is - perhaps you have the same as me, too many moving parts before contact? I find it easier to hit a moving target if I'm not moving also!

Good luck mate

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 12, 2016, 10:22:13 AM »

I had noticed the straightening of the legs and my back leg going to square leg.
They're both caused by the same thing, that concrete front leg! As my front foot was planted I had to get myself into a position to hit the ball round it wherever it was delivered. Simple fix - move my front leg...

I hate facing the bowling machine at the best of times, but it has really highlighted the above issues which I can now work on.

Thanks for all the feedback, I have taken all (okay, most of it!) on board and will work on the highlighted points. I'll try and get some more footage so you can see if by some miracle I've improved.

Dario74 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 12, 2016, 11:00:39 AM »

Quote from: WalkingWicket37 on July 12, 2016, 10:22:13 AM

I had noticed the straightening of the legs and my back leg going to square leg.
They're both caused by the same thing, that concrete front leg! As my front foot was planted I had to get myself into a position to hit the ball round it wherever it was delivered. Simple fix - move my front leg...

I hate facing the bowling machine at the best of times, but it has really highlighted the above issues which I can now work on.

Thanks for all the feedback, I have taken all (okay, most of it!) on board and will work on the highlighted points. I'll try and get some more footage so you can see if by some miracle I've improved.

Just on the foot movement, I think the back foot is more important as it acts as a non-committal trigger. It can be back and across or just back or just across but will help you to be ready to press forward with the front foot or play back foot shots square of the wicket. At the moment you're playing square shots off a fixed front foot. I try and move my back foot as the bowler runs in getting me ready to make a decision on the line/length of the ball.

Sorry for the contrarian/confusing view. I just find when I concentrate on the front foot I can over-commit and play round the pad and/or get trapped in front.

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