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Re: Bat Shapes
« Reply #45 on: January 11, 2010, 04:19:08 PM »

Agreed - when you started the topic you obviusoly had something in mind you wanted to get across - have you had the chance to do this yet, or was it purely to stimulate discussion?

I expect you found that people gravitated towards the larger and chunkier profiles. If you think back to the early 80's - the bat profiles are wafer thin compared to nowadays, yet still people would clear the boundary with ease - suggesting that timing the ball right in the nodal/comfort sweetspot is the most important aspect of batting, not necessarily the size of the sweetspot or depth of the bat.
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Re: Bat Shapes
« Reply #46 on: January 11, 2010, 04:22:58 PM »

Agreed - when you started the topic you obviusoly had something in mind you wanted to get across - have you had the chance to do this yet, or was it purely to stimulate discussion?

I expect you found that people gravitated towards the larger and chunkier profiles. If you think back to the early 80's - the bat profiles are wafer thin compared to nowadays, yet still people would clear the boundary with ease - suggesting that timing the ball right in the nodal/comfort sweetspot is the most important aspect of batting, not necessarily the size of the sweetspot or depth of the bat.


I won't tell you just yet why I started the thread but it isn't for techie reasons. Bit of research, a bit of a discussion and a bit educational stuff for everyone who cares to read and join in. A bit like the others I started recently it is  working well at the moment
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Re: Bat Shapes
« Reply #47 on: January 11, 2010, 04:35:54 PM »

I have been thinking about your questions and contrary to the views I expressed from the customer point of view, my view is that as long as the bat goes well and feels good, I am not overly bothered about the shape or stickers on the bat.

In most cases I pick my bats based on the pick-up and feel and then tap them to see how the middle responds. The shape or the would obviously determine the pick-up and the position of the middle but is not that important.

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Re: Bat Shapes
« Reply #48 on: January 11, 2010, 04:37:29 PM »

If you had a bat that had the middle in the right position and picked up how you like, does it make any difference how it is shaped?

Bat aesthetics can be very important because the player plays best when psychologically 'in the zone'.  He may not find this place if he looks down and is worrying about the size of his edges.  This is why we have custom bat makers, because hopefully you will get top performance from the bat and man because he loves his personalised bat. Hey presto.

For me, I'm not good enough to worry about my bat shape, I've got other issues - they're called bowlers, fielders, and not watching the ball.
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Re: Bat Shapes
« Reply #49 on: January 11, 2010, 04:50:08 PM »

The Jumbo looks relaitvely small in comparison to many modern bats - like profiles 1, 3 and 8. (predictable)

Yep the Jumbo [or not so Jumbo] is about 2.6 ish I think!!!!!!
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Re: Bat Shapes
« Reply #50 on: January 11, 2010, 04:59:25 PM »

I do like profile 1 and 4.
But i'm with mdl on this, too much info for my puny brain to take!
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Re: Bat Shapes
« Reply #51 on: January 11, 2010, 05:00:40 PM »

Pretty amazing though if you look back at bats years and years ago as to how much wood and edge size there is in the bats compared with your huge bats nowadays....
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Re: Bat Shapes
« Reply #52 on: January 11, 2010, 05:17:28 PM »

Profile 5
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« Reply #53 on: January 11, 2010, 05:17:58 PM »

I think that people like and its far more pleasing on the eye the way a laver is shaped than most other bats, I want to look down and see a lovely shaped piece of wood when im a the crease

Profile 1 btw.
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Re: Bat Shapes
« Reply #54 on: January 11, 2010, 05:34:00 PM »

I love all the science but the truth is that despite the studies so far I can guarantee to produce a better bat by using experience in the making. I have had bats handmade for me by many, Millichamp, Laver, Keeley, Sains, Miller and many more but the first time I got told to have something other than my request was by David Banks at Stac. I told him what I wanted and even though he does not machine his bats and simply shapes and sands them like many of the custom bat makers here on the forum he taught me a lesson. He told me that with my size and the way I play my shots I was having the wrong shape and proceeded to make something else shape and weight wise. I was disgusted as I stood there watching my chosen cleft being hacked up but the resulting bat scored me more runs as I was hitting the ball better and further. I'm sure that the heavier weight and lower middle was the reason and the shape was much like the M&H Solution about 10+ years ago.

For all the shapes I've got my preferred ones for my style of batting.
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Re: Bat Shapes
« Reply #55 on: January 11, 2010, 05:37:48 PM »

4,5 & 6!
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Re: Bat Shapes
« Reply #56 on: January 11, 2010, 06:00:25 PM »

Norb,

Can i ask your opinion on the shape of M&H Distinction bat??  Its unlike any other ive seen.

Have you seen it??? 

Low Toe'd bat, made for our low bounce pitches nowadays. Small edges to allow for more meat in spine area  and should have good swing speed.  Looks like pick up would be good-ish as the spine is quite high all the way up to the splice[maybe needs another grip for balance but who knows I never picked on up] Great bat for a front foot player or a slogger
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Re: Bat Shapes
« Reply #57 on: January 11, 2010, 07:40:36 PM »

Todays Question!!!!!!!  Oh no, no more please, please enough, I here you cry.....

Anyways I will persist!!!

If you had a bat that had the middle in the right position and picked up how you like, does it make any difference how it is shaped?

If i pick it up and the weight and pick up and balance are spot on and had a few hits with a mallet and all is well then I'm not that concerned with shape and edge size ? however id like the above in an Asian type profile with a bow and large profile and i would have everything i want ! in a cricket bat that is I'm more fussy with other things.
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Re: Bat Shapes
« Reply #58 on: January 11, 2010, 11:04:46 PM »

If i pick it up and the weight and pick up and balance are spot on and had a few hits with a mallet and all is well then I'm not that concerned with shape and edge size ? however id like the above in an Asian type profile with a bow and large profile and i would have everything i want ! in a cricket bat that is I'm more fussy with other things.

Sound sensible getting a bat that picks up well, has a good middle, and is in your prefered shape :-)

edit: no love for the single scoop!!!! :-( 2 & 7
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Re: Bat Shapes
« Reply #59 on: January 11, 2010, 11:14:06 PM »

7 is my bat and should not be shown on a public forum......
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