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Re: 1 inch longer 1 inch shorter
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2016, 11:58:14 AM »

Always get my bats with longer handle shorter blade, I am 5,7 and prefer the feel...that being said after getting a rehandle back with a standard handle shorter blade I've opted for this approach, most of the time just chopping the knob off myself
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Re: 1 inch longer 1 inch shorter
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2016, 12:01:34 PM »

As with shax, shorter blade short handle for my b3. Not too sure anyone really uses that extra top inch or so on the longer handle models (although i could be wrong) so is it for balance or to purely keep the overall bat length standard? Being short & having loads of room left on my handle i could probably go short blade with SSH, assuming the bat would pick up/ feel the same.

That's where I hold my bats... :-[
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Re: 1 inch longer 1 inch shorter
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2016, 12:03:35 PM »

That's where I hold my bats... :-[

Same!



If your a shorter fellow, and you buy a long handle short blade bat and cut the handle smaller, I have to ask, have you looked at the small Men's, academy and ssh bats to start with? These are aimed at smaller people that a standard short handle is a tad too long for.
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Re: 1 inch longer 1 inch shorter
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2016, 12:10:03 PM »

Bare with me whilst i remove my foot from my mouth.. Ive always been a SH user and would have never deviated had it not been for this pesky forum! I do like this short blade method, but probably because the bat looks a little chunkier than normal rather than it peforms/suits me more. Then again with my batting capabilities i dont think it will ever matter
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Re: 1 inch longer 1 inch shorter
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2016, 12:11:47 PM »

If your a shorter fellow, and you buy a long handle short blade bat and cut the handle smaller, I have to ask, have you looked at the small Men's, academy and ssh bats to start with? These are aimed at smaller people that a standard short handle is a tad too long for.

Because buying a Small Mens, Super Short Handle or academy bat makes your genitals shrink. You need a full size bat because that's what everyone else has, and DIY is manly  ;)

I think the bargains are in the smaller bats, kookaburra Small Mens or GM Woman's bats are full width blades just a touch shorter, but are over £100 cheaper than the SH equivalent. It's a no-brainer to me

P.S I'm 6ft1 if we're comparing  :D
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Re: 1 inch longer 1 inch shorter
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2016, 12:47:18 PM »

Same!



If your a shorter fellow, and you buy a long handle short blade bat and cut the handle smaller, I have to ask, have you looked at the small Men's, academy and ssh bats to start with? These are aimed at smaller people that a standard short handle is a tad too long for.
I am short and have small hands  i tried a SSH  bat but the handles tend to be thicker and I kept losing my grip  I've thought about a womens bat  but can't find a 2lb 6 or 7 ounce.
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Re: 1 inch longer 1 inch shorter
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2016, 01:33:27 PM »

I am 5'6'' (and 5'7'' on a good day). I used size-6 bats custom bat in configuration designed by Laver and also made by MG2. I can tell you from experience that these are the most comfortable bats I had used up to the that point in my batting career - the bottom of the bat never hit or scraped the ground and drives were smooth. Whenever I see tall batsmen like Cook, Hales, KP et-al using standard SH bats, I always thought that these bats are proportionally much shorter (for these tall guys) then what short guys (like myself) normally use (SH for example). Again, proportionally, a short batsman should be using a size-5, size-6, or even a Harrow bat.

Here is where things become tricky:

- Weight. If you want to use a heavier bat, it's hard to get these bats in heavier weights.  When I tried to get a non-Laver custom maker (who shall remain anonymous but boy did they sour my experience ) to make a size-6 bat, they messed it up royally! I had to go back to Laver to get a 3 pounder made in size-6 config (there are other criteria as well).

- Balance. The bats made by Laver and MG-2 use a shorter blade (from a size-3)bat which assists with the balance and bat speed. One can make a case that conventional bat sizes (overall length), bat handle lengths, and bat blade lengths should be subject to further investigation and experimentation to revise the optimum combination (bat length, handle length, and blade size) by batsman's height and batting style. I suspect, Laver & MG-2 did experiment with smaller bats and handles and arrived at a size-6-size-3 combination.[Note: It was Marty first who suggested and made these bats for me. Later Laver team suggested the same config and seemed familiar with the idea].  I wouldn't call it the golden ration (yet :D) but the bats are phenomenal.

So, why did I switch if the bats were so great? Well, I needed something in heavier weights and SH size bats were readily available in my weight category. One bat (standard SH) led to another and rest is history. Interesting thing is that I held my size-6 bats at the top of the handle and use the same position in my SH bats. The additional couple of inches that are left untouched provide the leverage/counter weight to my heavy (2-12 to 2-14) bats.
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Re: 1 inch longer 1 inch shorter
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2016, 01:38:59 PM »

I think the bargains are in the smaller bats, kookaburra Small Mens or GM Woman's bats are full width blades just a touch shorter, but are over £100 cheaper than the SH equivalent. It's a no-brainer to me

All true and I regularly look for these bargains. Unfortunately, these bats are made in light weights and heavier options are not available. I would love to get an M&H Amplus in Harrow/Size-6 in 2-12 or 2-13 weight at the standard (Harrow) price point - it would be a steal. It just won't happen since the makers deem these bats for kids and hence the lighter weights.
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Re: 1 inch longer 1 inch shorter
« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2016, 02:06:28 PM »

I think 1 inch longer is always preferable, although it does depend where you hold it. If you hold it near the knob, the length shouldn't really matter, it should be equally as effective when you swing it about.

Cutting your knob off seems rather a drastic action in order to make your grip more comfortable, but I guess that's a very personal thing.
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Re: 1 inch longer 1 inch shorter
« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2016, 02:59:54 PM »

As with shax, shorter blade short handle for my b3. Not too sure anyone really uses that extra top inch or so on the longer handle models (although i could be wrong) so is it for balance or to purely keep the overall bat length standard? Being short & having loads of room left on my handle i could probably go short blade with SSH, assuming the bat would pick up/ feel the same.
Definitely depends on the player.  I had an inch cut off the bottom of a carbine and just could not play with it. My hands gripped right at the top where the handle finished and I'm only short. So i had to have it rehandled with a longer handle. 
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Re: 1 inch longer 1 inch shorter
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2016, 06:34:26 PM »

I think 1 inch longer is always preferable, although it does depend where you hold it. If you hold it near the knob, the length shouldn't really matter, it should be equally as effective when you swing it about.

Cutting your knob off seems rather a drastic action in order to make your grip more comfortable, but I guess that's a very personal thing.

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Re: 1 inch longer 1 inch shorter
« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2016, 07:47:40 PM »

I think 1 inch longer is always preferable, although it does depend where you hold it. If you hold it near the knob, the length shouldn't really matter, it should be equally as effective when you swing it about.

Cutting your knob off seems rather a drastic action in order to make your grip more comfortable, but I guess that's a very personal thing.

Completely agree. Though one must also consider thickness.

A thicker shaft may give more desirable results. This could be achieved with the use of double rubbers, should you find its a little thin to begin with.
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Re: 1 inch longer 1 inch shorter
« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2016, 09:03:31 AM »

I used my warbird for the first time last night and it went really nicely but feel the difference in the longer handle, wasnt massively difference but did feel like there was extra handle below my bottom hand
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Re: 1 inch longer 1 inch shorter
« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2016, 09:29:32 AM »

Some players find with long handles they  have less control of the the shot.
Also long handle bats are becoming more of a niche market.
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Re: 1 inch longer 1 inch shorter
« Reply #29 on: August 23, 2016, 09:51:38 AM »

Some players find with long handles they  have less control of the the shot.
Also long handle bats are becoming more of a niche market.

But the longer handles mean more leverage,  who cares about control when you're sending bombs into the next County?  ;)
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