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[Vitas Cricket]

Really good post! I have always played with Forma and I have been very happy with them. Actually Protech (parent company of Forma) makes bike helmets in India and they have been in this business for a very long time. If you see closely, many brads are getting their helmets made by them (look at the designs closely and you will know).

The story is - Kiran More (former India wicketkeeper) has stakes in the company and the original helmet was designed by Sachin Tendulkar many years back. Today they take feedbacks from many India players. No wonder more than half of Indian team uses Forma.

Forma does not currently conform to the latest safety standards. This is not a colonialism thing, or xenophobia as has been raised by a few in the past. Shrey, Yonker and Stanford (all Indian brands) have helmets that have been put through the testing, and passed.

As raised in this topic, just because a helmet has passed does not automatically make it safe in my opinion, the worrying lack of build quality in many Shreys is evidence of this. When scrutinising whether we will stock a safety product we look at more than a simple safety certificate, which has its flaws as i have shown.

[Cow_corner]

Would be interesting to know if Shrey are accredited with relevant international quality control systems? It's not that difficult to build to specification a group of samples for test. It's applying and keeping the right quality control in series production.

[SteffanLangholz]

Adam Voges down with a shrey. Looks like a tough blow.

@Ayrtek Cricket , is the new BS stricter on side blows as well as frontal?

[Ayrtek Cricket]

I have t seen the video as said cricket website doesn't let us view them here.

Was he hit on the shell or grille?

[SteffanLangholz]

I have t seen the video as said cricket website doesn't let us view them here.

Was he hit on the shell or grille?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltrpJPfMS6U

Side of the head. Might be right around the fixing of the grill, or just above.

[procricket]

Look at the back near the rear/side he turned his head at last minute lid did it job was a big blow that

[Ayrtek Cricket]

Comes down to how much force the helmet acts to absorb/disperse.

The shells and grills are all impacts at different locations which is why we are required to submit 30 helmets per model for testing. Some of you may have seen the graphic I put up recently showing the newest helmet we have released and where we feautre in regards to impact forces being recorded during BSI testing.

You can be right upto 250Gn and still pass where as we were averaging below 50 across the 3 different testing conditions. Due to variation in design we use EPS within the helmet which is commonly known as a great impact absorbent material hence its use so widely in cycling helmets.

[Calzehbhoy]

Is it compulsory for helmet companies to release their results @Ayrtek Cricket ? If not, do you think it should be? Also, what is the result difference between this series and the old series?

[Ayrtek Cricket]

No it's not compulsory as it's the companies own data. Not sure if it should be or not tbh but imo I'd like to think we've driven innovation and made others have too pull their socks up too since we entered the fray.

The newer PremierTek 2016 model is performing marginally better than the previous model in terms of impact attenuation due to a newer shell material I've used.

[Calzehbhoy]

As they are potentially life saving equipment personally I think it should be compulsory. I'd prefer to know that I was being protected better for my money from one brand to another and am not just paying extra money because of who's badge is on it.

[GoodLeave]

I'm amazed pro's don't use neck protectors.

I'd want a tank if I were to be facing Starc/Steyn. Why go out without one!? Must be a superstition thing because they don't weigh anything or affect movement. I guess it's just knowing it's "There".

[Ayrtek Cricket]

As they are potentially life saving equipment personally I think it should be compulsory. I'd prefer to know that I was being protected better for my money from one brand to another and am not just paying extra money because of who's badge is on it.

Depends if your results are something to be positive about or not I guess 🤔

[smilley792]

Another concussion from a shrey

http://www.cricket.com.au/video/alex-doolan-concussion-helmet-hit-tasmania-western-australia-sheffield-shield-adam-voges/2016-11-19

Doolan this time.


Can't ever remember many helmets(original masuri ayrtek etc) ever causing concussions, yet seems to be a lot lately??

Is it more due to them being sent to docs and not just cracking on as before?

[skip1973]

Where's Vic?

[Ayrtek Cricket]

IMO I think the shell structure has an effect as they have now been designed to be more rigid to stop the ball penetrating the peak/grille area which means a stiffer shell.

If you make something to dense it won't absorb impact and will instead transmit the impact on to the object being placed next to it..I.e the head.

Our design is intended to work By Using a rigid outer shell paired with the EPS liner invour design we have a harder outer layer to dissipate the initial impact and a crushable/impact absorbing layer to reduce the force.

Does anyone know what the other helmets use is it a foam core centre type design with it sandwiched between a hard outer and inner layer?