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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1140 on: December 09, 2016, 01:03:43 PM »

Decision to play 4 seamers looks more baffling by the over! Really liked what Boycott was saying on TMS that you've got to look at how your host sets up in their own conditions as they know them better than anybody else, unless we're classing Stokes as an offie after his spell in the UAE.

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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1141 on: December 09, 2016, 01:11:44 PM »

Two Spinners In The Playing 11 Another Two Sitting On The Bench And They Ask Root To Bowl. Now Root Can Be Handy And Has Taken Key Wickets In The Past. But It Shows Poor Performance By Your Main Group Of Spinners Or Possibly A Lack Of Belief In Them By Management Or Their Captain.   
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1142 on: December 09, 2016, 03:14:38 PM »

Everyone will be breaking Rashid's balls for not bowling well. But Bairstow fluffed an absolute dolly of a stumping of Rashid's bowling. Had that been taken Rashid might've taken a few quickly. Just roll back to yesterday when Ashwin didn't look very threatening, Moeen gifted him one and then he bagged another couple quickly.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1143 on: December 09, 2016, 03:22:07 PM »

Everyone will be breaking Rashid's balls for not bowling well. But Bairstow fluffed an absolute dolly of a stumping of Rashid's bowling. Had that been taken Rashid might've taken a few quickly. Just roll back to yesterday when Ashwin didn't look very threatening, Moeen gifted him one and then he bagged another couple quickly.

Fluffed it yes, a dolly... No. Im sure most keepers will tell you they would have struggled to take a sharp stumping between bat and pad, especially when 90% of rashid's balls that pitched outside off spun. So bairstow was 'wrong footed'. It would have been a good take otherwise!

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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1144 on: December 09, 2016, 03:59:06 PM »

Fluffed it yes, a dolly... No. Im sure most keepers will tell you they would have struggled to take a sharp stumping between bat and pad, especially when 90% of rashid's balls that pitched outside off spun. So bairstow was 'wrong footed'. It would have been a good take otherwise!
Bairstow says he's been keeping to Rashid for a very long time. If that's the case how is he still not picking the googly? It was as straightforward stumping as you'll see in Test cricket. Bairstow was hapless.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1145 on: December 09, 2016, 04:03:17 PM »

At test level you would expect it to be taken as to go down as a miss by Johnny.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1146 on: December 09, 2016, 04:07:05 PM »

You ignored the main point. I never said it wasnt his fault, for a ball to go straight on when you expect it to turn and it squeezes through bat and pad, you just don't see them.

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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1147 on: December 09, 2016, 06:28:21 PM »

Haven't seen the stumping in question but man's got a point, Bairstow's been keeping to Rashid his entire first class career - picking it should not be a problem!

Glad Buttler's making runs, his talent is not in question - if he cracks the tempo for test match batting and plays for years then we're in for a treat watching.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1148 on: December 09, 2016, 06:32:53 PM »

Sky did a piece on Blairstown keeping to Rashid over the years. Even in the Yorks games, he repeatedly failed to pick Rashid's variations.

Why isn't Butler keeping? Isn't he way better??
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1149 on: December 09, 2016, 06:39:17 PM »

Sky did a piece on Blairstown keeping to Rashid over the years. Even in the Yorks games, he repeatedly failed to pick Rashid's variations.

Why isn't Butler keeping? Isn't he way better??

Buttlers best spells as a keeper have come when England have not had a spinner, certainly not an attacking one. Based on my limited viewing of him up to the stumps, he's a long way behind Bairstow. Both are terrific athletes and superb stood back to the pace bowlers, but thats the easy part of keeping wicket. The artistry happens when stood up.

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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1150 on: December 09, 2016, 07:09:36 PM »

Buttler started as Mumbai Indians keeper in the last ipl. He was soon replaced behind the stumps by Patel(current Indian keeper) as he couldn't pick mumbais spinners.

He got the gloves back eventually but that was more down to Mumbai wanting to play an extra top end batsman.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1151 on: December 09, 2016, 07:36:29 PM »

Player power eh?

Apparently Bairstow insists on keeping the gloves and Stokes wants to bat at 6.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1152 on: December 09, 2016, 07:39:38 PM »

Ben Foakes got some runs for the lions today ;)
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1153 on: December 09, 2016, 07:54:42 PM »

***controvertial old person post***

These blokes are not keepers. They are batting allrounders

Seeing read keep to ajmal and russell stood up to courtney walsh

Thats keeping...gloucs connection for you there Edge

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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #1154 on: December 09, 2016, 08:18:55 PM »

That was my thought - don't see a route to get him in the team, but Foakes is supposed to be a proper keeper isn't he?

Ha the gloucs connection is strong, walk past a gert big poster of Jack Russell every time I go to the gym or to the local shops! Standard of keeping here now isn't the same, that's for sure.
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