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[smilley792]

Interesting to see that Ali and bairstow move up to 4 and 5, and jos is in at 7.

Yet stokes stays at six. We reckon they've done that because of his bowling or he put his foot down to stay at 6??

[Alvaro]

Two thoughts:

It breaks up the lefthanders.

It would be good to have something approaching a settled team!

[ppccopener]

6 is right for Stokes, he is a genuine all rounder

and I think he asked to bat there a while back.......or it was when Farbrace was in charge for a while and told Stokes that should be where he bats

one of the two can't remember, but genuine all rounder-that's where you should bat.

[Alvaro]

6 is right for Stokes, he is a genuine all rounder

and I think he asked to bat there a while back.......or it was when Farbrace was in charge for a while and told Stokes that should be where he bats

one of the two can't remember, but genuine all rounder-that's where you should bat.

Don't be so prescriptive, I wouldn't have wasted Kallis or Sobers at 6!!

[smilley792]

But Ali is at 4 and woakes 8........... cough #genuineallroudners cough

[ppccopener]

But Ali is at 4 and woakes 8........... cough #genuineallroudners couch

yeah I think that's why you get differing opinions on the forum regarding allrounders....any why Woakes causes so many posts. I don't agree with @Seniorplayer about Woakes(not being in the team) but I do see what he means....

Both he and I (am im sure some other oldies on here(fattus!!!) and those younger that appreciate the older players, grew up with botham.khan.dev,hadlee, etc.....in one era there were some of the best ever, and you can argue all day long who was the best(BOTHAM!!!!!) 

So when someone on here posts 'genuine allrounder' it sort of means something a bit different(!)

so I see where senior is coming from

I do class Stokes as genuine allrounder, I don't think Ali or Woakes are......

If that makes any sense 

[Buzz]

Given Moeen was picked as the number 1 spinner and is now batting at 4 it might be a little disingenuous no to refer to him as a genuine allrounder.
Woakes has been picked as a bowler first and foremost but I think he is not far from being a genuine all rounder. He is certainly a better batter than Collingwood was a bowler for example.

[rickjames]

SEXY JOS TIME

[Calzehbhoy]

Suprised Jos has come in as a batsman only. Thought they would have gone YJB 4 & given Buttler the gloves. I suppose it does break the RH/LH up a bit with Mo at 4.

Fair bit of work for Mo to get through being #1 spinner and #4 in the order.

[smilley792]

1- as has been mentioned on here so so many times. JB does not want to give up the gloves. In His mind it helps his batting. So why risk taking your form batsmen going out of form by upsetting him?


2- jos has played 1 first class game in 13months. Let him concentrate on his batting only. Why chuck a second discipline on a guy that probably has a lot to think about as it is on his comeback.

[ppccopener]

the management are already taking the pressure off Jos and quite right, the middle bit of our batting order has not settled down for a while(although I think Duckett is the answer long term)

so it's a wildcard and i'm sure he will be given licence

it's a gamble but if we look at the options available there's not much left 

[Seniorplayer]

Given Moeen was picked as the number 1 spinner and is now batting at 4 it might be a little disingenuous no to refer to him as a genuine allrounder.
Woakes has been picked as a bowler first and foremost but I think he is not far from being a genuine all rounder. He is certainly a better batter than Collingwood was a bowler for example.

Better batter than Collingwood maybe  but no where near as good as Sobers Botham  and other proper all rounders With bat or ball.

[Felix Tito]

Moeen might've been selected as number 1 spinner, but he's along way from being a leading spinner for any of the other major Test playing nations. He isn't a true all rounder. Neither is Woakes.

[Felix Tito]

Been reading that all the ex pros suggesting Mohali would be fast and bouncy. What planet they living on? Last year Dean Elgar's flithy SLA bagged a 4fer up there, so was there ever a chance India would produce a pitch that favours the opposition? IIRC last time India toured these shores, we dished up the greenest pitch I've ever seen at Lords.

[smilley792]

Arrrr. Dean Elgar. #genuineallrounder........