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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #570 on: November 20, 2016, 11:17:02 AM »

There's nothing worse than getting out to a ball like that. Excellent mental toughness shown from Hameed, he looks the part!

Hameeds had an unlucky match when  batting but with the mental toughness he has shown it won't effect him.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #571 on: November 20, 2016, 12:52:24 PM »

Love that Ansari is being spoken of as a possible night watchman. That'd be some comedown.

Coming in in the top for would be appropriate for his batting talent, night watchman or not
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« Reply #572 on: November 20, 2016, 01:00:01 PM »

Love that Ansari is being spoken of as a possible night watchman. That'd be some comedown.

Whatever floats your boat
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #573 on: November 20, 2016, 02:09:26 PM »

2 thing so read on twitter.

First, of the 6 longest(balls faced) opening partnerships in India for England. Cook and hammed feature twice.
Today is 6th and raijkot(352 balls) is the longest!


Second, someone commented on the way India celebrated hameeds wicket, they celebrated in a way that it'll it was a big big break through.
Something not seen when the likes of hales, Robson, lyth etc were gotten out.

Hameed matters and India know this!
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #574 on: November 20, 2016, 02:29:42 PM »

As a outsider, hameed has done well so far but he seems to have a problem with the short ball. Heard he was troubled in one of the warm up games in Bangladesh and already he's got hit a few times.
Don't want to get a reputation of struggling against the short ball
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #575 on: November 20, 2016, 03:40:04 PM »

Yeah that's a big blow it's been a great effort.

I dunno how Duckett is going to play in the morning but he must try to be positive, sitting and waiting will not work for him

"If in doubt reverse sweep" - his words not mine
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #576 on: November 20, 2016, 03:53:47 PM »

"If in doubt reverse sweep" - his words not mine




Some of the replies are interesting
https://twitter.com/BenDuckett1/status/793019387837939713
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #577 on: November 20, 2016, 03:55:40 PM »

This is going to be very tricky for him tommorow. At the moment there are holes in his technique, scoring runs fluently is his best form of defence.

But if he is out playing aggressive it will bring opinions from  all round. That's where you need a strong mind.
You have to be true to yourself.

The way Stokes has played on the two tours (superbly) mixing defence and attack maybe is the way to copy.

Stokes by all accounts has put serious work into staying out there to begin with.

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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #578 on: November 20, 2016, 04:15:19 PM »

Coming in in the top for would be appropriate for his batting talent, night watchman or not

I agree, he is certainly better than your average nightwatchman.  I would have said - based on what I have seen in county cricket - that he is a batsman who turns his arm over rather than a frontline bowler who can hold a bat. 

@Buzz I'd be interested to hear - regardless of the merits of selecting him as a bowler - where you'd bat him in the current England set up (with Woakes in the side).
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #579 on: November 20, 2016, 04:15:56 PM »

Whatever floats your boat

Ah c'mon, you have to love daft suggestions on commenttary!
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #580 on: November 20, 2016, 04:17:10 PM »

This is going to be very tricky for him tommorow. At the moment there are holes in his technique, scoring runs fluently is his best form of defence.

Makes you long for the olden days, when a young batsman would start off at six or seven to get used to the international game...
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #581 on: November 20, 2016, 04:43:02 PM »

Indeed that's exact how it was even for openers in county cricket coming into the team.

The modern game is different now thou the way in is thru one dayers and the Lions.

I hope we stick with Duckett all tour. Yes there is a problem with his defence(look at hameed 's stance today on Sky,(you can see pretty much off stump only).

We have coaches, Thorpe and ramprakash are there, they are the ones now who can improve him.

From what I have read about Duckett, he always had the talent and didn't dedicate himself to it liike he should of, then he clicked and changed his thinking, so he has put the work in previously...

We can't keep changing. Taylor(very unlucky) Vince, Compton, Ballance....

If Duckett does get dropped you gotta ask where next for a number 4?
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #582 on: November 20, 2016, 05:31:34 PM »

If Duckett does get dropped you gotta ask where next for a number 4?

There are plenty of potentials, but chopping and changing has to be a well considered process.  At this stage, we have established that Duckett can play quality innins internationally; he did in the Bangladesh one dayers and again in the second test.  We have estalished that he can be dismissed by a quality off spinner on turning pitches. 

If he is not massively affected by it (in which case resting out a game or two could help) then stick with him.  The ability is there, and things should come good.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #583 on: November 20, 2016, 05:42:48 PM »

Keaton Jennings was very very unlucky not to be with the group..

Not sure the answer is really I have not seen anything in Duckett to suggest a test player is there yet but agree needs a good go in better conditions.

But we need a settled side and need to give people as long as possible.
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Re: India v England Test Series
« Reply #584 on: November 20, 2016, 07:03:57 PM »

I would not change the batting personnel for the third test, just swap Duckett and Bairstow
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