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[ppccopener]

Haha yeah !!

Bairstow butler and the legend woaksey need to give it some long handle.

We are going to go down just put a few in the stands.

Despite the scoreline(for us England fans) this has been very good cricket every game

[Seniorplayer]

6 down at close. Ashwin's other one was spinning more than rashid's leggy.
100 for woakes tomorrow  .

England have done better than I expected after going 3 down early.

Woakes had the opportunity in the first innings  when  batting with Buttler to take take Englands score over 400 and maybe upto and beyond 450 with the tail  doing so England would now have a lead and maybe a chance of winning.

[Manormanic]

Woakes had the opportunity in the first innings  when  batting with Buttler to take take Englands score over 400 and maybe upto and beyond 450 with the tail  doing so England would now have a lead and maybe a chance of winning.

In other news, Woakes is also responsible for Brexit, ebola, the rise of DAESH and global warming, right? 

[jamielsn15]

230-2 to 400 all out. Dropping Kohli on 60-odd and Jayant in single figures is the major problem, overall selection of the squad aside...

[Batbuddy99]

In other news, Woakes is also responsible for Brexit, ebola, the rise of DAESH and global warming, right? 

You forgot Trump

[ppccopener]

We have been short just about every first innings-thats been our problem because the spinners need plenty of runs to bowl at.
We dont have a ashwin who is surperb in these conditions...
But big runs have eluded us since the Ashes away couple of years ago.
On the positive side i reckon we are getting there...the top 5 has got to settle down thou.
I could not understand myself why Root was not used as 3rd spinner for this series.im afraid we dont have any better behind him and ali and rash.
This is as good as we got.

[Seniorplayer]

In other news, Woakes is also responsible for Brexit, ebola, the rise of DAESH and global warming, right? 

Well i do wonder in this series what  he contributes to the team besides his three wickets in three matches

[Seniorplayer]

We have been short just about every first innings-thats been our problem because the spinners need plenty of runs to bowl at.
We dont have a ashwin who is surperb in these conditions...
But big runs have eluded us since the Ashes away couple of years ago.
On the positive side i reckon we are getting there...the top 5 has got to settle down thou.
I could not understand myself why Root was not used as 3rd spinner for this series.im afraid we dont have any better behind him and ali and rash.
This is as good as we got.

Good point Root as the third spinner and on these wickets a specialist batsman at eight

[uknsaunders]

Biggest problem is we are missing a decent left arm spinner to a team of right handers. Why we didn't take 2 left arm spinners is a bit curious. Particularly when you see how dangerous a dart merchant like jadeja is in these conditions.

[Manormanic]

You forgot Trump

Nope, Seniorplayer would actually have us believe that Trump developed Chris Woakes in Area 52 as a means of destablising the England cricket team...

[Manormanic]

Biggest problem is we are missing a decent left arm spinner to a team of right handers. Why we didn't take 2 left arm spinners is a bit curious. Particularly when you see how dangerous a dart merchant like jadeja is in these conditions.

If only Fat Sammy could lay off those pies and stick to bowling 'em!

[CrickFreak]

I think lot of things went wrong for England - the most important one was England's batting was below par. So many posts about Ali, Rashid, Woakes and England's bowling combination etc etc but not many about dismal batting performance by Cook, Root etc. They never got a big score to set an example and motivate other batters.
England won the toss thrice and never secured a lead. Batting in India is different - its easiest in first session of day 1 and keeps getting harder as match progresses unlike other places where its harder on day one then gets easy and the gets harder again.
India has similar problems when they travel, batsmen dont score enough. You need runs on the board to put the opposition under pressure which also helps bowlers to attack more and get 20 wickets.

And atleast this series will put the "win toss win the match" western myth to rest. 

[uknsaunders]

I think lot of things went wrong for England - the most important one was England's batting was below par. So many posts about Ali, Rashid, Woakes and England's bowling combination etc etc but not many about dismal batting performance by Cook, Root etc. They never got a big score to set an example and motivate other batters.
England won the toss thrice and never secured a lead. Batting in India is different - its easiest in first session of day 1 and keeps getting harder as match progresses unlike other places where its harder on day one then gets easy and the gets harder again.
India has similar problems when they travel, batsmen dont score enough. You need runs on the board to put the opposition under pressure which also helps bowlers to attack more and get 20 wickets.

And atleast this series will put the "win toss win the match" western myth to rest. 

You can counter that by saying England did what they could given the bowlers they were facing. Sky were discussing it on air that had Kohli and Co had to bat against Ashwin etc things would of been a lot more difficult. Ultimately England no longer have two world class spinners and that's hurt them on turning pitches.  Sure England have played some poor shots but the Indian spinners have got more out of the wicket at all stages of the game,  both first and second innings. Let's not forget Kohli has been head and shoulders above all the Indian batsman and has help turn near par situations into big first innings leads. England particularly in this test have missed chances to get into the ascendency. I'm sure they will learn and come back a better team when they next visit Asia.

[InternalTraining]

England's first inning score was a good score. The primary difference between two teams has been Virat Kohli as a batsman. Then, India has clever spinners in Ashwin and Jadeja who have been consistent performers in their home conditions. I feel now it is too late for England to salvage the series. Cook's leadership might be at risk as well. I think it is time for Cook to pass the baton to a younger, more dynamic, Test captain - someone with fire and fight in him. I see no other candidate better than Benji. Virat Kohli before his captaincy was also a fiery character and look what he's done for India's Test side. Plus Kohli also have lifted his game (batting) to another level.

Cook and Root should just focus on runs and records. Benji would make a great England Test captain!

It'd be interesting to see how Kohli's side travels; in their last outing to Australia they did put up a good fight but came up short. Kohli has inculcated a mindset of "no excuses" in his team. I would love to see how they'd fare on the road. All this is great for international Test cricket.

[Seniorplayer]

To Be Captain of England  history shows you usually have to come from a selective background