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[six and out]

I don't think you can underestimate how much we miss 2 players.

1. Mark Wood - would have been excellent in these conditions to be able to give the Indian batsman the hurry up.
2. James Taylor - I realise he is now not playing but he was nailed on in the troubled 4 slot before everything happened and also more importantly is an outstanding player of spin.

[petehosk]

@ppccopener It is indeed! And I think some of it may be because we have suddenly got a stronger mid order and even our lower order can bat in most (although not all!!) conditions! Which seems to make the top order think that they can give their wicket away as the middle order will dig us out, which is not true this time round!
But I would like to see Ali bat further down the order. If the last Test is likely to be played on a raging turner then would like to see..

Cook
Jennings
Root
Bairstow
Buttler
Stokes
Dawson
Ali
Rashid
Batty
Anderson/Ball

[Felix Tito]

Rather play 11 batsmen then play 4 terrible spinners...

[ppccopener]

Sorry but if Moeen Ali, by general consensus, a top order batsman. If he's unable to bat in the top 5 he sod off back to county cricket. Moeen'a bowling had the beginners luck, but that's long since disappeared. He's neither good enough with bat or ball. Don't give me this tosh he averages 100 odd at #7.

Felix !!!!!  Ali is not a top order batsman. he cant play real pace, we shoved him up in the UAE and we have done it again because it's spin conditions, it's total folly AND WE HAVE DONE IT AGAIN THIS SERIES!!!

Top order batting is mental as much as technical.

I'm gonna blow a gasket in a minute where's walking wicket and his M and H bat's I can have a go at 

[Felix Tito]

I don't think you can underestimate how much we miss 2 players.

1. Mark Wood - would have been excellent in these conditions to be able to give the Indian batsman the hurry up.
2. James Taylor - I realise he is now not playing but he was nailed on in the troubled 4 slot before everything happened and also more importantly is an outstanding player of spin.

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Outstanding player of spin in English conditions he's never faced anyone as good as Ashwin

[ppccopener]

Rather play 11 batsmen then play 4 terrible spinners...

most sensible thing you have ever said . Period.   

haha

[Felix Tito]

Felix !!!!!  Ali is not a top order batsman. he cant play real pace, we shoved him up in the UAE and we have done it again because it's spin conditions, it's total folly AND WE HAVE DONE IT AGAIN THIS SERIES!!!

Top order batting is mental as much as technical.

I'm gonna blow a gasket in a minute where's walking wicket and his M and H bat's I can have a go at 

Moeen bats #3 for WCCC so he's obviously supposed to be a front line batsman, unless their tail starts at #3

[six and out]

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Outstanding player of spin in English conditions LB he's never faced anyone as good as Ashwin

Unfortunately Felix we will never know how he would have got on will we

[alexhilly1492]

I don't think you can underestimate how much we miss 2 players.

1. Mark Wood - would have been excellent in these conditions to be able to give the Indian batsman the hurry up.
2. James Taylor - I realise he is now not playing but he was nailed on in the troubled 4 slot before everything happened and also more importantly is an outstanding player of spin.

This!

taylor was a cracking player of spin and would have moulded the top of the order and made us look a lot more stable.

Wood is a nother big loss as he has genuine pace and the control to cause issues almost the new simon jones

[tate035]

Moeen bats #3 for WCCC so he's obviously supposed to be a front line batsman, unless their tail starts at #3

Top 3 in division 2... I think we finally get your dislike of Moen..   however currently our options are limited..  the management decision to bat him at 4 is baffling when YJB IS a better player. Even more baffling by the management when we won 3/4 tosses and therefore YJB was fresh and could have batted easily. The other point is that we let their bowlers get into a rhythm by batting so many left handers one after another...
All about opinions but can't think of one good reason why the management wouldn't have tried to have a left hand and a right hand batsman at the crease together as much as possible..

[Alvaro]

Taylor would be the obvious choice as captain if he were still available.

Given the number of back to front ineptitude England have picked as 'batsmen' over the last few years, Moeen deserves his place. He has contributed a lot more to winning Test matches than a lot of the side.

[Felix Tito]

I don't dislike anyone. But apart from Moeen being a "quota pick" he's simply not good enough. Period.

[Felix Tito]

Taylor would be the obvious choice as captain if he were still available.

Given the number of back to front ineptitude England have picked as 'batsmen' over the last few years, Moeen deserves his place. He has contributed a lot more to winning Test matches than a lot of the side.

Having a slog at #7 hardly makes Moeen a vital member of the side...

[horseman]

I don't dislike anyone. But apart from Moeen being a "quota pick" he's simply not good enough. Period.

is the quota yorkies and non yorkies?

[Felix Tito]

is the quota yorkies and non yorkies?

Non cider drinkers/cider drinkers