Topic: Picking Up Length (Read 8024 times)

Woodyspin · « **Reply #30 on:** February 02, 2017, 08:33:32 PM »

Quote from: DorsetDan on February 02, 2017, 07:55:15 PM

In some ways it is easier to face a better bowler as it is impossible to read someone who doesn't know what they are trying to do, let alone how they will do it!

As you said in some ways yes, faced a very experienced ex Semi Pro recently, if he hadnt kept drift on my pads he would have had with his bouncer! Couldnt see that coming even if he told me he was about to bowl it! I was also very lucky not to nick a few to the slips as he swung the ball like a boomarang!

adb club cricketer · « **Reply #31 on:** February 02, 2017, 09:07:40 PM »

Seeing the ball out of the hand works for me to pick up length, but most of the times, unless the bowler is very pacy, I dont need to pick up from hand lol..

brokenbat · « **Reply #32 on:** February 02, 2017, 09:11:05 PM »

Quote from: CrickFreak on February 02, 2017, 06:35:57 PM

How did you pick the length when the ball was never released?

the bowler never released the ball but went through the action. the instincts kicked in, expecting a very short ball (expecting a very delayed release of ball)

adb club cricketer · « **Reply #33 on:** February 02, 2017, 09:21:12 PM »

Quote from: DorsetDan on February 02, 2017, 07:55:15 PM

... In some ways it is easier to face a better bowler as it is impossible to read someone who doesn't know what they are trying to do, let alone how they will do it!

Pretty much sums up my bowling, i myself never sure where my ball will land or which way it ll turn, what to think of the batsman

brokenbat · « **Reply #34 on:** February 02, 2017, 09:36:33 PM »

One thing the pros do is they expect one kind of delivery, and let their reactions take over if it�s a different length. Ponting for instance, would be looking to get on the front foot (he said when in form, his front leg would be hovering just above the ground right at release!)..if short, he would then be able to jump off his front foot, and hit those devastating pull shots.

Steve Smith on the other hand, goes back, and stays back if short (no further back movement).

I think for us, this is too much. Simple stuff like staying in a balanced position, clear mind, and eye on the ball ALL THE WAY OUT OF THE BOWLER�S HAND will solve a lot of problems.

aman · « **Reply #35 on:** February 03, 2017, 02:42:49 AM »

I'm a bit like Steve smith, I have a back foot trigger. I find that is i get the trigger out of the way early then I have what feels like a lot more time.

langer17 · « **Reply #36 on:** February 03, 2017, 03:06:49 AM »

You typically get an idea of the length that bowlers will like bowling and your reactions adjust accordingly. Taller bowlers tend to pitch a bit shorter. If the bloke is firey, they'll pitch it short too. Younger blokes, I find anyway, tend to pitch up a lot more.

I never really watch the hand when the bowler is running up, I just pick it up as they are getting in their delivery stride and then I also react from the pitch.

I personally find that the more I think about it, whether it be saying 'watch the ball, watch the ball' or worrying about my shape all the time, the worse I go. Once out there in the middle, you just enter auto-pilot and go with your instincts. When I do that, then I typically score runs.

Stuey · « **Reply #37 on:** February 03, 2017, 08:57:52 AM »

Quote from: brokenbat on February 02, 2017, 09:36:33 PM

I think for us, this is too much. Simple stuff like staying in a balanced position, clear mind, and eye on the ball ALL THE WAY OUT OF THE BOWLER�S HAND will solve a lot of problems.

I agree, I recall Rob Key writing about trying a new trigger movement. He practised over the whole winter facing thousands of balls, but still couldn't nail it, so at the the start of the new season he reverted back to standing still.

Jlscarroll17 · « **Reply #38 on:** February 03, 2017, 09:36:47 AM »

What helped me was when in use to have a net I would place a lengths of tape and place on a good length anything pitched before the tape I knew would be short enough to play off the back foot and anything pitching in front of the tape was full of length and then after a while you get use to judging length and no longer require the tape

Righthand · « **Reply #39 on:** February 03, 2017, 10:16:30 PM »

This is a great thread!

The follow up to this question would then be if you can indeed pick the length or at least get close to picking it how do you translate that to the pull shot? For medium pacers as mentioned you probably have enough time to play the pull even if you don't pick the length. However for quicker bowlers once you have perceived a shorter ball at the time of release do you try to go back and across to play the ball under your eyes? I mean it's so much easier said than done!

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #40 on:** February 03, 2017, 10:32:52 PM »

Quote from: Righthand on February 03, 2017, 10:16:30 PM

This is a great thread!

The follow up to this question would then be if you can indeed pick the length or at least get close to picking it how do you translate that to the pull shot? For medium pacers as mentioned you probably have enough time to play the pull even if you don't pick the length. However for quicker bowlers once you have perceived a shorter ball at the time of release do you try to go back and across to play the ball under your eyes? I mean it's so much easier said than done!

If you're playing the pull under your eyes you've probably been beaten for pace

adb club cricketer · « **Reply #41 on:** February 04, 2017, 12:16:08 AM »

Agree. Pull shot needs to be played with full extension of the arms for maximum impact. So not under the eyes as in the straight bat shots.

adb club cricketer · « **Reply #42 on:** February 04, 2017, 12:17:45 AM »

Quote from: Jlscarroll17 on February 03, 2017, 09:36:47 AM

What helped me was when in use to have a net I would place a lengths of tape and place on a good length anything pitched before the tape I knew would be short enough to play off the back foot and anything pitching in front of the tape was full of length and then after a while you get use to judging length and no longer require the tape

Wouldnt good length depend on pace of the bowler? For a slower bowler, I can pull even if much "fuller" while for really quick one, unless it is very short, I wont be able to pull..

Sonic · « **Reply #43 on:** February 04, 2017, 01:27:36 AM »

Quote from: Righthand on February 03, 2017, 10:16:30 PM

This is a great thread!

The follow up to this question would then be if you can indeed pick the length or at least get close to picking it how do you translate that to the pull shot? For medium pacers as mentioned you probably have enough time to play the pull even if you don't pick the length. However for quicker bowlers once you have perceived a shorter ball at the time of release do you try to go back and across to play the ball under your eyes? I mean it's so much easier said than done!

What I do and seen many I Indian cricketers do for facing quick bowlers, is to have trigger movement to go on the backfoot towards off or middle stump assuming we are in leg stump stance. This makes me ready to handle pace, give me ample time too as well get behind ball for bounce. If ball is pitched up we will be ready to go on front foot. Quite opposite of Ricky Ponting

aman · « **Reply #44 on:** February 04, 2017, 02:23:11 AM »

Quote from: Sonic on February 04, 2017, 01:27:36 AM

What I do and seen many I Indian cricketers do for facing quick bowlers, is to have trigger movement to go on the backfoot towards off or middle stump assuming we are in leg stump stance. This makes me ready to handle pace, give me ample time too as well get behind ball for bounce. If ball is pitched up we will be ready to go on front foot. Quite opposite of Ricky Ponting

Yep fully agreed, I noticed Kohli and Steve Smith Do this in their trigger. There basically already on their back foot so it gives so much more time on the back foot. My theory as to why this works is it's a lot easier to move forward than it is backwards even if you think about it as just walking from human body perspective but if you already moved back then you've covered the slower movement.

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