Topic: New batmaker? (Read 120661 times)

t2ylo · « **Reply #180 on:** February 19, 2017, 07:03:31 PM »

I haven't been on here all that long and really enjoy sharing my lifelong enjoyment of the wonderful game of cricket with like minded souls.
The inside track on products is priceless & I love the contrary views; articulated eloquently.
It's fair to say I am a long time looker & occasional poster.
The fun bit it that we don't all see the world the same way - I think �129 for a G2 bat from smaller local bat maker is sensational value but I choose not to spend �300 on something similar from one of the big boys. That's my perogative.
I don't mind where it was made or who put the stickers on but my last bat was from a garage 5 miles from home & is lovel (and was under �150)
Newbury have clearly had to evolve their model as you all describe much better than me and if it means they not only survive but thrive I'm good with that.
Top end bats (and softs) are phenomenally expensive so I voted with my feet and there's no longer a certain West Country based company in my kit bag.
However that retailer is selling oodles of bats, has opened new outlets & has cornered the "money no object" segment despite concerns over hand made v hand finished
You can get a bat from �50 - �1000, we have never had it so good ;-)

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #181 on:** February 19, 2017, 07:06:43 PM »

If people weren't prepared to pay silly prices, the brands wouldn't be able to charge them.

Everyone on here ought to be able to find a decent bat for less, or not much more, than �200.

JB · « **Reply #182 on:** February 19, 2017, 07:08:21 PM »

Quote from: Rahul_K on February 19, 2017, 06:50:05 PM

Was the early 'USP' of B3 to undercut the GM prices, claiming they left as the prices were unreasonable?

You may not have an association now Dave, but this is the brand you relentlessly promoted 12 months before that became sponsors, and then bought the forum...

Thought you were a newbie???

Bwcc · « **Reply #183 on:** February 19, 2017, 07:25:00 PM »

What does everyone think of the 2017 newbery stickers?

RoCo Da Pixie · « **Reply #184 on:** February 19, 2017, 07:35:40 PM »

Quote from: Bwcc on February 19, 2017, 07:25:00 PM

What does everyone think of the 2017 newbery stickers?

Personally I think they're awful. Should have stayed with what they had but added slight colouring to them.

ursmasti · « **Reply #185 on:** February 19, 2017, 07:37:11 PM »

Quote from: skip1973 on February 16, 2017, 10:39:01 AM

I'm sure they picked up 2.7 though.

He he ... these are actual words of paul --- Other thing I meant to say was if you want 2-7 feel you want 2-10 dead weight 😂 Does all bat makers suggest samething to their customers ? I didnt make up these words ... these are from the email paul sent to me.

Bwcc · « **Reply #186 on:** February 19, 2017, 07:44:33 PM »

I think the look of most of the stickers for the last 2 years have been going south, the last ones I thought looked classy were the kudos, no garish neon colours, classy and simple

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #187 on:** February 19, 2017, 07:48:32 PM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on February 19, 2017, 06:48:22 PM

Make for �110. Sell for �550. How is that 22% profit?

Make for � 110 inc your wage and sell for �550 I am in the wrong job

tom line · « **Reply #188 on:** February 19, 2017, 08:13:55 PM »

Does that �110 take into account, travel, overheads to the extent of insurance and losses such as clefts lost to storm damage during cracks pressing cracks etc? As well as you paying for the skill of the craftsmen

procricket · « **Reply #189 on:** February 19, 2017, 08:18:31 PM »

Quote from: tom line on February 19, 2017, 08:13:55 PM

Does that �110 take into account, travel, overheads to the extent of insurance and losses such as clefts lost to storm damage during cracks pressing cracks etc? As well as you paying for the skill of the craftsmen

all in all around 110 some maybe more some less.

it not exact but it not a million miles away..

How much does a Masuri stemguard cost to make.
How much does a Ferrari cost to make.
How much does a Lacost jumper.

Funny @Seniorplayer I know you roughly know what a cleft and handle and stickers cost..

Your now telling me you don't understand the figures.

I understand the crown and other top per cent of clefts charging a premium it a simply supply and demand.

The rest is inline I mean how much is a regular grade 1 from hawk is similar to Chase which is similar inline with many..

Is the whole industry too expensive

?

110 is the figure quoted by a unnamed source I was talking to this week not taking into account the brackages.

but if you figure most buy 2 and 3 the mark up isn't that much in reality.

the 550 I guess is the crown goes on exclusivity if your into that thing.

tom line · « **Reply #190 on:** February 19, 2017, 08:22:42 PM »

I'm not arguing Dave and I realise there's got to be a decent mark up, why would you bother doing it otherwise at the end of the day it's a business. I think it's important to remember the big start up fees as well though sick as machinery bandsaws presses etc as well as the place itself

procricket · « **Reply #191 on:** February 19, 2017, 08:27:44 PM »

Quote from: tom line on February 19, 2017, 08:22:42 PM

I'm not arguing Dave and I realise there's got to be a decent mark up, why would you bother doing it otherwise at the end of the day it's a business. I think it's important to remember the big start up fees as well though sick as machinery bandsaws presses etc as well as the place itself

I can only quote this

if a shop sells for say 250

how much did the shop pay for the bat trade.

There most mark ups.

As for direct your right if there a new then all the machines and stuff costs.

I want to know the cost of a lacost jumper which I wouldn't buy because well I'm a tramp and prefer my kids clothed better than me

procricket · « **Reply #192 on:** February 19, 2017, 08:33:20 PM »

end of the day not many makers drive massive cars live in big houses, most do it because they love it.

On this forum you see the passion from the brands because whilst they get decent sales and feedback reviews but my god it takes it time.

I do not knock anybody making a few quid in the tough, tough industry that is the market.

People can lie, people can talk crap but in the end they will be found out.

Good luck to all.

and for the people buying buy what you can afford and be happy be it a entry level or test level there some reeght bats to be had.

Ayrtek Cricket · « **Reply #193 on:** February 19, 2017, 08:36:12 PM »

People seem to think every cricket brand or retailer is out there to rip them off....people charge the prices they do in order to earn a living and pay their mortgage and overheads.

Some will be higher than others admittedly but I'm yet to see sports shop owners owning mega yachts and driving flash cars....more have gone out of business than anything!

I price my products at what I deem reasonable taking into account I need to earn a living from it and make it worth my while/time doing. Other brands might be cheaper if they don't rely on it as a sole income due to having a full time job and doing it as additional income.

As Dave mentions it comes down to your business model as well, if your sole aim it to sell B2C (business to customer) then your mark ups don't have to be quite as high. However if your aim to to sell B2B who then have to resell the product B2C then you both need to ensure a sufficient margin is made to make it worthwhile in you selling them the product and then being able to then sell the product to a customer. This is what might drive RRP's up if the cost price and therefore trade price increases due to increases in raw materials/labour etc.

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #194 on:** February 19, 2017, 08:44:16 PM »

Quote from: procricket on February 19, 2017, 08:27:44 PM

I want to know the cost of a lacost jumper which I wouldn't buy because well I'm a tramp and prefer my kids clothed better than me

Lacoste, Dave.

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