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Re: New batmaker?
« Reply #345 on: June 08, 2017, 05:42:02 AM »

Technically SG/FCS/SS/ would not be where they are now without Kooks/Puma/Adidas/GN/Slazenger/



I get your point , even agree to a small extent.  Yep , I'm sure s.d.sondhi are in a better position than they would otherwise have been ... but if they weren't making bats for n.b et al they may have heavily invested in Protos brand promotion and we'd all be drooling over Joe Roots new Protos bat range . Sg don't need kooks and ss don't need anyone .They are both huge in their own rights .
 I'm not sure how g.n fit in with all of this either . It is common knowledge to english non forumites that gn make their own bats in england , even though most companies dont . In oz it is common knowledge for non forumites to know that g.n oz makes their own bats . It is common knowledge in both countries that england produce/manufacture an english range and oz ditto . Here in Sydney i often come across cricketers who , on the surface , seem to only have limited bat knowledge,  yet they can rattle off Stuart Kranzbuhler's name as soon as you mention gn , or particularly if you mention oz gn big bats .
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Re: New batmaker?
« Reply #346 on: June 08, 2017, 05:49:25 AM »

This option is only available to less than 0.001% of the buying public, i.e. the forumites...for the rest, newbery is newbery...if that is not the case, kooka/gray nics/nb etc.. would all have been out of business by now  in favor of sg/sondhi etc ...

I have heard a few english club mates lament that Newbery 'ain't what they used to be' , 'lost that prestigious air to them' , 'seem more ordinary these days' etc , and i wouldn't put them in the 0.001% .
Gray nics out of business by now ? Yeah , like every other company like sg/sondhi etc have been making warners, halestorms and xp80s the last few years have they ? Gray nics also have generations of accumulated good will up their sleeve too . By contrast , if every n.b bat on the face of the earth vanished tomorrow,  people would only miss them until they saw the next shiny new toy in Roots/Smiths/Stokes hands .
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Re: New batmaker?
« Reply #347 on: June 08, 2017, 05:55:21 AM »

Technically SG/FCS/SS/ would not be where they are now without Kooks/Puma/Adidas/GN/Slazenger/
I totally agree with this statement. The investment by the overseas companies has massively helped the now big Indian brands. Having a constant revenue stream to help grow the business is imperative.
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Re: New batmaker?
« Reply #348 on: June 08, 2017, 06:23:30 AM »

This option is only available to less than 0.001% of the buying public, i.e. the forumites...for the rest, newbery is newbery...if that is not the case, kooka/gray nics/nb etc.. would all have been out of business by now  in favor of sg/sondhi etc ...


This is so true


Over the winter, a guy that has used millichamp and all his life, bought his son a 600 quid nick Compton bat(can't remember code)
It is conclaves to hell.

I tried to have a conversation regarding how they ourchased(store visit or online etc) and they confirmed order online, they then seemed to get aggressive pretty fast when I suggested it may be Indian made.

I stop the convo pretty fast when the dad said "I have seen Mr millichamp make me several bats in person, and you can tell this bat has his distinct traits and character, it's clearly made by him"


If a guy doesn't even know Julian  millichamp left ages ago, is there any point telling them.




Anyway, the bat pings and the kid scores runs with it, does anything else really matter??
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Re: New batmaker?
« Reply #349 on: June 08, 2017, 06:50:00 AM »

Where are these videos available, please? I can't find them :(

If you are referring to the videos in the Newbery bat builder site which feature Paul
Aldred, these are accessed via the small " i " button.

These can only be accessed in sequence once each choice has been picked.
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Re: New batmaker?
« Reply #350 on: June 08, 2017, 07:15:02 AM »

Thank you, Bats
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Re: New batmaker?
« Reply #351 on: June 08, 2017, 02:07:44 PM »

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Re: New batmaker?
« Reply #352 on: June 08, 2017, 02:22:52 PM »

revealing the links to the Aldred videos
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Re: New batmaker?
« Reply #353 on: June 08, 2017, 02:52:30 PM »

Technically SG/FCS/SS/ would not be where they are now without Kooks/Puma/Adidas/GN/Slazenger/
No doubt kook/Gn/NB business helps SG/FCS etc grow their business..however, SG/FCS/SS don't need them to survive but can't be said the other way round, maybe they can maybe not, but for whatever reason (mostly financial), they chose to go the indian made route... GM is the only big name brand  which are able to survive with their bats made entirely in UK and must be profitable as well but not sure if they are able to be as profitable as kook or GN (Would be interesting to know more on this). The few UK/Aus made GNs are only at very high price points, surely they wouldn't have been able to service the markets enough if they had only those ranges and nothing else.
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Re: New batmaker?
« Reply #354 on: June 08, 2017, 02:59:43 PM »

I have heard a few english club mates lament that Newbery 'ain't what they used to be' , 'lost that prestigious air to them' , 'seem more ordinary these days' etc , and i wouldn't put them in the 0.001% .
Gray nics out of business by now ? Yeah , like every other company like sg/sondhi etc have been making warners, halestorms and xp80s the last few years have they ? Gray nics also have generations of accumulated good will up their sleeve too . By contrast , if every n.b bat on the face of the earth vanished tomorrow,  people would only miss them until they saw the next shiny new toy in Roots/Smiths/Stokes hands .
When I said Gn/kook would be out of business, dont mean to say GN/kook can't make quality bats  themselves.  In fact, the quality might have been even better but the prices they would have had to sell them would have put them out of the market....Surely, if GN made only the Warners/XP80s/50+ in Uk/Aus selling at 800AUD + etc (however good they might be),  the numbers they sold wouldn't be enough to survive in the market..
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Re: New batmaker?
« Reply #355 on: June 08, 2017, 03:09:40 PM »


If a guy doesn't even know Julian  millichamp left ages ago, is there any point telling them.

I love this!

"Excuse me, old bean. I can guarantee Mr Millichamp made this bat. Otherwise, why would it be £600?"

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Re: New batmaker?
« Reply #356 on: June 08, 2017, 03:18:53 PM »

revealing the links to the Aldred videos

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Re: New batmaker?
« Reply #357 on: June 08, 2017, 03:33:44 PM »

Just bask in the reflective glory of the helpful.
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Re: New batmaker?
« Reply #358 on: June 08, 2017, 03:45:32 PM »

Anyway, the bat pings and the kid scores runs with it, does anything else really matter??

Yes, he's clearly a spoilt brat.
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Re: New batmaker?
« Reply #359 on: August 03, 2017, 07:45:54 AM »


Just saw this photo of their Heritage range on Facebook, very few batmakers do bats with shoulders like that.
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