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jimmy23

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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2017, 10:31:07 AM »

So what happens when these professional extremely strength and conditioned players continue to smash sixes once these rules kick in?
What do they ban next? Head height shots?
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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2017, 10:36:57 AM »

I agree, won't make any difference.
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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2017, 10:40:05 AM »

So what happens when these professional extremely strength and conditioned players continue to smash sixes once these rules kick in?
What do they ban next? Head height shots?

6 and out rule will come in!
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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2017, 10:50:47 AM »

1 hand 1 bounce will be soon!
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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2017, 11:08:45 AM »

Looks like it's "Beluga" time...
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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2017, 11:15:56 AM »

Does it have to do anything with the fact that not many brands can make these (warner kind) big bats as only a few have access to these over sized clefts?
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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2017, 11:27:24 AM »

i think the line of 'to redress the balance between bat and ball' is a load of rubbish.

i just think this is a way for the powers that be to simply get a handle on things and stop the bat sizes getting what they consider out of control - because i don't think they realised what was physically possible until Warner's bats came out.

until they do things like - move the boundaries back, change the fielder limits, stop groundsman producing corporate roads - bat will always win over ball no matter what they are using.

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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2017, 12:11:58 PM »

Just shows what a bunch of tools they are
The games moved on, players are encouraged to play big shots nowadays.it used to be frowned upon to hit over the top, go ariel etc
I noticed Atherton dropped the big bat remark/excuse while on about the recent one dayer.

I remember Vaughan doing a Saturday morning coaching thing on TV ,years ago, about hitting over the bowler for six.
He played the shot and I'm sure he said that , that was the first time he'd ever done that

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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2017, 12:38:03 PM »

Atherton's said for a while that he doesn't think it'll make any difference to be fair. I always enjoy when you see the commentators go and do a range hitting drill or something similar with an international player, borrow a monster bat and then plink it every shot. Think it was Nick Knight recently even saying 'i thought these bats were supposed to make this easy?'

I doubt even your average pro bat is much bigger than 67/40 anyway, everyone carry on. Get rid of Kookaburras and use a ball with a bloody seam!
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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2017, 12:40:10 PM »

In my eyes the restrictions are pointless as most bats will fit within the requirements, 67mm spine is still huge and compared with 40mm edges.

You might have seen a difference if they had decided to implement the original suggestions of 60mm spine and 35mm.

You will still get boys like Stokes, Warner, Butler smashing it to all parts no matter what twig they have in their hands due to their skill, strength and natural ability.

Are we going to see super light bats weighing around 2lb 5oz since having to stay within the limits?
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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2017, 12:43:37 PM »

Atherton's said for a while that he doesn't think it'll make any difference to be fair. I always enjoy when you see the commentators go and do a range hitting drill or something similar with an international player, borrow a monster bat and then plink it every shot. Think it was Nick Knight recently even saying 'i thought these bats were supposed to make this easy?'

I doubt even your average pro bat is much bigger than 67/40 anyway, everyone carry on. Get rid of Kookaburras and use a ball with a bloody seam!

Watch this space.
There could be a lot more Nics in ODIs soon though!
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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2017, 12:45:27 PM »

for us ameteurs we may get a bit of an advantage using the bigger bats with large edges...

but if you watch any old you tube clips of Richards or Botham for example it's hard(impossible for me anyway) to believe a ball can be hit further now than it was then......with the old style bats.

Botham used a pretty heavy bat at his peak, and he was immensely strong. I was in the crowd at Lords when he hooked McDermott into the stand and I just can't see a ball being hit harder.

that's my opinion anyway  :)
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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2017, 12:56:05 PM »

If it puts and end to virtually every pundit referencing bigs bats every day it'll be worth it. Such a boring comment. They rarely mention all the work they do improving hand speed, weight sessions, general fitness that allows them to hit hard all game and a change in mindset that lets batsmen try to hit 6s all game not just at the end.

The mankad thing, I think is fair. The bowlers have to stick to the line, so should batsmen. The run out law makes sense too.
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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2017, 01:06:48 PM »

Bit isnt the weight still the same so the power put into the ball would be the same regardless of the thickness? I'm no physics expert but that sounds about rite.

As for these retired players going on and on about bat sizes increasing the scores in modern cricket, they should ask them selves how many practice sessions did they actually practice hitting sixes as compared to players nowa days and if they had half a brain they'd put two and two together and stop bagging on the modern player simply because they didn't have the balls to play in the fashion that the modern player does.
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Re: Time to hand em in boys..
« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2017, 01:09:41 PM »

Bit isnt the weight still the same so the power put into the ball would be the same regardless of the thickness? I'm no physics expert but that sounds about rite.

As for these retired players going on and on about bat sizes increasing the scores in modern cricket, they should ask them selves how many practice sessions did they actually practice hitting sixes as compared to players nowa days and if they had half a brain they'd put two and two together and stop bagging on the modern player simply because they didn't have the balls to play in the fashion that the modern player does.

F=ma so the force on the all equates to the mass of the bat times the acceleration (speed through the ball) of the bat, the mass being equal for a bat of the same weight even if one has 40mm edges or 60mm edges as there's the same mass of wood, the size is purely down to density of the wood
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