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Re: Stance
« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2017, 10:41:45 AM »

Glad you enjoyed it @roco.  Have you now mastered the on drive?
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Re: Stance
« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2017, 11:00:12 AM »

not mastered but better
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Re: Stance
« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2017, 04:18:39 AM »

Agree with most of the comments here, w.r.t. closed or open stance, there is no right or wrong. I personally have been a terrible batsman all my life with an open stance (and i didn't even know i was having an open stance, always thought i was not a good enough batsman!) until i changed to the closed stance, and started scoring a lot of runs....Also, I was personally inspired by one of the best technique out there, Sachin, always staying side on and seeing one of his video where he said to stay side on is the key to batting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGZdFApgtqM
Looks like it all boils down to what works best for each..
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Re: Stance
« Reply #33 on: June 15, 2017, 01:20:18 PM »

Update: managed to have a net this week for the first time in ages, so tried out a slightly more open/front on stance. The main difference was it put less strain on my dodgy groin, but it felt comfortable so i'm going to stick with it.

The main improvement though was getting my hands higher (as per Julian Wood's tips). As an opener I've always played with low hands to avoid getting bowled or lbw, but batting with high hands really helped me take on the pull shot and gave me much greater power through the ball.

Amazing the difference a net can make ;-)
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Re: Stance
« Reply #34 on: June 15, 2017, 01:32:01 PM »


The main improvement though was getting my hands higher (as per Julian Wood's tips). As an opener I've always played with low hands to avoid getting bowled or lbw, but batting with high hands really helped me take on the pull shot and gave me much greater power through the ball.

Amazing the difference a net can make ;-)

By "low hands", do you mean holding the bat low or keeping your bat and hands low as in crouching down?
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Re: Stance
« Reply #35 on: June 15, 2017, 11:54:51 PM »

Not low in terms of the handle of the bat.

Low in terms of not picking it up high in my backlift i.e. the opposite of how Jonny Bairstow stands at the crease.
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Re: Stance
« Reply #36 on: June 18, 2017, 07:57:17 AM »

Used this first time yesterday

Highest score of season missed 1 ball but thankfully wasn't given

Feels weird looks wrong but works
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Re: Stance
« Reply #37 on: June 19, 2017, 02:35:47 PM »

I have come to the conclusion that my stance does not matter!

If a bowler bowls a straight ball within my first 6-10 balls I face, I'm going to miss it! (Annoying Fact)
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Re: Stance
« Reply #38 on: June 19, 2017, 03:24:13 PM »

I have come to the conclusion that my stance does not matter!

If a bowler bowls a straight ball within my first 6-10 balls I face, I'm going to miss it! (Annoying Fact)

Which means your bat isn't coming down straight, which is something very easy to fix with some shadow batting and throw downs using your top hand only.
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Re: Stance
« Reply #39 on: June 19, 2017, 04:33:18 PM »

I found after the session I was hitting straight a lot better

Gary worked on getting my front leg and shoulder out of the way which gave my bat a free line at the ball

With the above vids I would say chuck your right elbow out more as I was tucking my elbow in like you which was stopping me hitting straight and was going into out rather than straight

Hope it helps as after my 2 hour lashing I stopped but it took being told off 40+ times so I must be a slow learner
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Re: Stance
« Reply #40 on: June 19, 2017, 05:17:37 PM »

Still feels completely wrong to me mate and I had 2 hours with him so don't worry about that

In my knock sat I closed my shoulders a couple of times so it's hard after years of doing it the other way

Just try to remember left shoulder facing straight mid on

A practice he had me do was try to hit 2 sixes so clear front leg then play normal for 2 to get used to being open

Hope it helps
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Re: Stance
« Reply #41 on: June 19, 2017, 06:52:17 PM »

It is all really interesting and helpful, thanks @roco

I had another 2 hours on a bowling machine after that session and could already feel it becoming more normal and I definitely see it as something to persevere with.

The main problem is keeping the practice up as those 4 hours playing around with an open stance in the past few days is all I've batted since March! In a match situation bad habits take over with poor results!

Exactly right Dorset and grooving it so it holds up in a game is the hard part. It's not easy, 3 years in after adjustments to my stance it's still a work in progress. 2 weeks ago I was looking at mid off to a left arm over the wicket bowler, I knew my stance was out and head position had gone over too far.

I tend to bat with low hands so I think it was mentioned on here about having hands higher up(bairstow springs to mind) so perhaps an idea is to stand up straighter....that's what I will be trying to do anyway.that should get the hands higher...I'm not sure about that so I will give it a go at nets and see if it helps
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