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[JB]

the big question though Dave.......... TMS or sky sports through the ear piece???

Good day to go mate, glad you enjoyed it!!

[Seniorplayer]

I'd take Stokes over Botham. Definitely.

I wouldn't Botham was a far better bowler

[procricket]

the big question though Dave.......... TMS or sky sports through the ear piece???

Good day to go mate, glad you enjoyed it!!

sorry Sky mate!!!

I saw in the program Stokes stats vs Ali stats (I'm not comparing but shows what numbers mean)

Before the test

Stokes  34 test, 1977 runs, averages @32 , 4 hundreds 9 fifties
Ali        39 test, 2066 runs, averages @35 , 5 hundreds,10 fifties

Bowling

Stokes  83wkts,@35. 3 x 5wkt halls
Ali        112wkts@39,3x 5 wkt halls, 1x10 wkt hall

Found it interesting the stats.
Stokes


As for Roland-Jones he did nothing wrong at all and it good for English cricket to get the lads on the edges a game and for them to come in and do well is so important.

[WalkingWicket37]

I wouldn't Botham was a far better bowler

Are you looking at it through rose tinted "everything was better back in my day" glasses though?

While Botham's bowling was probably better, I'd have Stokes as his all round game offers more. It's obviously unfair to compare like for like with the generations difference between them, but Stokes is a better fielder & athlete than Botham.

[procricket]

and for me Cam and Senior comments are what makes cricket great. opinions vary so much I love the game!

[ppccopener]

Are you looking at it through rose tinted "everything was better back in my day" glasses though?

While Botham's bowling was probably better, I'd have Stokes as his all round game offers more. It's obviously unfair to compare like for like with the generations difference between them, but Stokes is a better fielder & athlete than Botham.

I don't think it's unfair to compare eras in this instance, they are similar players...it's a genuine comparison and very close who is better or if stokes could eclipse both an.

I'm sure you know Cam as yr a cricket bookworm/you tube child Botham was quick in his pomp and moved the ball at pace.....
My opinion Stokes is a better batsman but only by a fag paper

Worth remembering a lot of the players batted bare headed and I'm not having it the bowling is better today.

Yours an old person..where's my glasses!

[golders]

Massive knock for Jennings!Playing for his place here,can't imagine the pressure he is feeling.I wish the lad well.

[rickjames]

Really don't even know why Philander has even tried playing...

[alexhilly1492]

Jennings dropped on six

[Johnny]

I think Stokes is a very special batsman.... He really needs to improve his numbers. Not sure I'd ever pick him as just a bowler

[JB]

I can see what you mean @Johnny, he's expensive but does have that something that gets some good wickets at important times.

[rickjames]

This tweet is hilarious then you put Hales' response to it https://twitter.com/root66/status/891206651621060608

[beaver5]

Are you looking at it through rose tinted "everything was better back in my day" glasses though?

While Botham's bowling was probably better, I'd have Stokes as his all round game offers more. It's obviously unfair to compare like for like with the generations difference between them, but Stokes is a better fielder & athlete than Botham.

Stokes is a very good player but I don't see how you can possibly compare him to Botham, who was the greatest all rounder of all time. He was an out and out strike bowler who could bowl a team out. Wasn't he the leading wicket taker in the world at one point? Stokes is a good 1st/2nd change bowler, but unlikely to run through a team.

Batting they are far more similar, but I'd have liked to have seen Beefy using the modern day bats. He'd have been even more destructive than he was then. Fielding also very similar, but again Beefy was one of the best slip fielders of all time. I think Stokes has the potential to be a great player, but still has some way to go and needs to be more consistent if he is to achieve it.

[Bats_Entertainment]

Botham the greatest all-rounder of all time? What a load of rubbish!

[procricket]

I think Kallis and Sobers may have a argument so too Dev,Hadlee,Khan