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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #615 on: July 31, 2017, 10:59:43 AM »

There are two types of leave.....
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #616 on: July 31, 2017, 11:22:07 AM »

There are two types of leave.....

Shame SA have taken the Shane Watson tactic of using his pad instead of his bat
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #617 on: July 31, 2017, 11:31:42 AM »

TRJ is looking very good. Can't imagine him not being given next Test as well - excellent bowling and decent with the bat too!
Assuming Woakes is fighting fit for the WI Tests, what do England do? And let's not forgot about Woods and Ball as well! Nice to be in this position though but I suspect that there will be some tough choices to follow for WI Tests and particularly who to take to the Ashes!!

Opinions?

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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #618 on: July 31, 2017, 11:47:47 AM »

Malan out, Woakes in. Everyone's moves up, Woakes at 8.

I think Anderson, Broad, TRJ, Woakes and Stokes is a bit too much bowling personally, so I think when Anderson calls it a day, we bring Malan or Ballance back in.
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #619 on: July 31, 2017, 12:09:34 PM »

Cook
Jennings
Westley
Root
Moeen                        ---------------
Stokes                       ----------------    These three can switch around to go as suited.
Bairstow                     ---------------
Woakes (if fit)
TRJ
Broad
Anderson

Possibly bowling heavy, but realistically Stokes could get selected on his batting alone, so IMO he can play as a specialist bat. I can't really see a position for Ballance - his hanging back is fine in county cricket, but with the extra 5-10mph, it seems to catch him in a sticky spot. Arguably not had a fair crack going in at 3 when he's been batting middle order at Yorkshire of course! Good to have Wood as a back up, but with his injury problems can he offer consistency or will he forever be in and out?
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #620 on: July 31, 2017, 12:14:18 PM »

TRJ is looking very good. Can't imagine him not being given next Test as well - excellent bowling and decent with the bat too!
Assuming Woakes is fighting fit for the WI Tests, what do England do? And let's not forgot about Woods and Ball as well! Nice to be in this position though but I suspect that there will be some tough choices to follow for WI Tests and particularly who to take to the Ashes!!

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The WI series will definitely be used to rest one of or both Broad and Anderson and possibly even Stokes.

So i can see a situation where they literally give the likes of Ball, Wood, TRJ maybe Overton etc.... the chance to cement their place on the plane for the Ashes.

Then you might see Woakes in for Stokes if they want to give him a rest and move Bairstow and Mo up the order.

Batting wise I think Westley will get the series to get more tests under his belt.

The big decision will be over the openers slot - where i think a lot will depend on what Jennings does at OT. I can't see the side changing and that way Jennings gets a final chance to either impress or be dropped for the WI series.

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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #621 on: July 31, 2017, 12:23:59 PM »

Trj has bowled better than I thought he would...it is helpful bowling conditions true but he has still done really well.same with Westley.
I think trj being able to bat def helps England with selection.
We don't really need 8 batsmen long term and bayliss or whoever now decided two spinners is not the way forward

Jennings is the problem...he needs to work on his game but could come good later on...many young players have done.
England yes prob want to look at stoneman, can't see Jennings going on the ashes tour
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #622 on: July 31, 2017, 12:42:44 PM »

if jennings doesnt go who will be the openers on the tour?

cook, stoneman and hammeed?

hammeed with no form and stoneman on a first tour, its a bold shout, although i cant see anymore options, unless root opens (again) and we keep malan in the side with everyone moving up one spot
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #623 on: July 31, 2017, 12:55:03 PM »

I think we need to rest Cook and "rest" Jennings for the WI Tests and open with Hameed and Stoneman.
I realise the WI bowling attack are a lot weaker than the Aussies bowling attack but need to see how the prospective openers look!
Plus it could give Hameed the chance to start getting back in form at a decent level! And if he looks like a walking wicket (like Jennings does) then it ensures that Stoneman is also looked at!

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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #624 on: July 31, 2017, 01:12:43 PM »

I think we need to rest Cook and "rest" Jennings for the WI Tests and open with Hameed and Stoneman.
I realise the WI bowling attack are a lot weaker than the Aussies bowling attack but need to see how the prospective openers look!
Plus it could give Hameed the chance to start getting back in form at a decent level! And if he looks like a walking wicket (like Jennings does) then it ensures that Stoneman is also looked at!

If, for arguments sake, they both make runs against a weaker WI attack have the selectors really learned anything of note though?
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #625 on: July 31, 2017, 01:28:00 PM »

Hat-Trick for moeen!
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #626 on: July 31, 2017, 01:30:35 PM »

Hat-Trick for moeen!

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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #627 on: July 31, 2017, 01:34:49 PM »

Definitely time for more call to drop Moeen...
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #628 on: July 31, 2017, 01:42:25 PM »

I'll tell you who wants dropping. Joel Wilson.

Awful all match, I know umpiring is a thankless task, but you could at least get a few right...
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Re: Eng vs SA test series
« Reply #629 on: July 31, 2017, 01:56:42 PM »

Great win.

Also don't listen to TMS but that Boycott stitch up is hilarious
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