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[WalkingWicket37]

OK Cam he who cannot be mentioned.

So you're saying a bloke with a proven Test record with the ball and who is more than capable with the bat, who is simply out of match practice due to just coming back from injury, shouldn't go to Australia?

[Seniorplayer]

So you're saying a bloke with a proven Test record with the ball and who is more than capable with the bat, who is simply out of match practice due to just coming back from injury, shouldn't go to Australia?

Not just match practice a test recorded boosted by a good 2016 in the uk against oppositon that  at times  lacked quality  no consistency in the winter in Asia need to see  more top   Batters wickets  and more wickets per innings  from your first  change bowler in  also in Aus most of the wickets are taken by seamers

[golders]

A little bit disappointed not to see Livingstone in the latest ODI squad- very much doubt he will be a wildcard pick for the Ashes now.

[Johnny]

No Crane either?

[golders]

Perhaps they want Crane to do some bowling in the county championship,but I would have thought bowling under more pressure and scrutiny in the T20's and odi's would benefit him more,if the selectors want to take him to Aus?

[alexhilly1492]

Not just match practice a test recorded boosted by a good 2016 in the uk against oppositon that  at times  lacked quality  no consistency in the winter in Asia need to see  more top   Batters wickets  and more wickets per innings  from your first  change bowler in  also in Aus most of the wickets are taken by seamers

So who should play instead? Roland jones who is a similar bowler?

[Seniorplayer]

So who should play instead? Roland jones who is a similar bowler?

For a player lacking in test match experience
TRJ during his time in the team did nothing wrong proved he can get  top players out played a big part in the wins against the  harder to beat SA and the first windes test .
Worth a seat on the Aus plane.

[northernboy1987]

For a player lacking in test match experience
TRJ during his time in the team did nothing wrong proved he can get  top players out played a big part in the wins against the  harder to beat SA and the first windes test .
Worth a seat on the Aus plane.

Yeah he's worth a seat on the plane but he's not gonna play if Woakes is fit. You can keep saying that apparently he's bolstered his stats against weak oppo but Pakistan were hardly garbage when they came over were they? The test series finished 2 all so clearly Pakistan did alright, even with Woakes taking 26 wickets across the 4 tests. He took 11 wickets for 100 runs at Lord's in a losing effort for crying out loud, give the lad a break.

[Seniorplayer]

Yeah he's worth a seat on the plane but he's not gonna play if Woakes is fit. You can keep saying that apparently he's bolstered his stats against weak oppo but Pakistan were hardly garbage when they came over were they? The test series finished 2 all so clearly Pakistan did alright, even with Woakes taking 26 wickets across the 4 tests. He took 11 wickets for 100 runs at Lord's in a losing effort for crying out loud, give the lad a break.

And there's the problem players getting selected on  the back of one decent series  didnt do a lot  in Asia also
Never said Pakistan were garbage  not a word i would use Pakistan were poor at times
 there Captain said so himself on TV.
And as for Sri Lanka in 2016 had just started to rebuild.

[northernboy1987]

And there's the problem players getting selected on  the back of one decent series

TRJ has literally played 3 test matches...........

[Seniorplayer]

TRJ has literally played 3 test matches...........

Yes but they were here and now.and he got the wickets of  good players

[alexhilly1492]

Yes but they were here and now.and he got the wickets of  good players

So you're saying the woakes stats are inflated but trj isn't even the wickets he took in the first West Indies test?

[Seniorplayer]

So you're saying the woakes stats are inflated but trj isn't even the wickets he took in the first West Indies test?

Against SA TRJ 10 wickets in two tests best bowling  match winning 5 for 58 second only to Moeen.

[WalkingWicket37]

Against SA TRJ 10 wickets in two tests best bowling  match winning 5 for 58 second only to Moeen.

But South Africa were poor at times, their Captain said so himself on TV...

[Seniorplayer]

But South Africa were poor at times, their Captain said so himself on TV...

Okay let's put it like this  following a good lead declaration England lost the second WI test due to there failure to bowl the Windies out on day five having left out an  inform TRJ  for Woakes who had a match return of  2  wickets for over 100 runs.
Would TRJ made a difference we will never know.