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Re: FitClub
« Reply #105 on: November 01, 2017, 08:55:16 AM »

Well 10 PT sessions down, an extra 10k calories burnt compared to the month before (I've been doing a few home sessions as well), alcohol more than halved, Yellow / white food (bread, potatoes rice etc) reduced 80%, seriously daily attempts at calorie deficit. Money spent, pain and suffering powered through and today was checkpoint one against my baseline measurements....

No change, zero (well virtually), infact my calf has got bigger (and they were already big) and so has my chest (man boobs) which I guess is why I thought my tummy had shrunk a bit.

Not an ideal start to the day.... and I can't even go and comfort eat to help me through it..... I have a training session this afternoon to get through.

:-(

@Boondougal I think the calorie deficit approach to weight loss is complete (No Swearing Please)...everything has to do with regulating your body's blood sugar level and insulin response....anything that spikes your blood sugar, even in moderation, is bad for you.  Eat the right foods - meaning natural high fat foods like meat, butter, etc. and get your carbs from fruits and vegetables...and stop eating when you feel full instead of counting calories which will drive you insane....fruits and vegetables provide the vitamin nutrients, protein and fat are key to satiety....

All calories are not the same....2000 calories from eating cotton candy and drinking coke will have a vastly different effect on your body than 2000 calories from eating steak slathered in butter and a fillet mignon for dessert.

If I were you, I'd cut out the bread and potatoes completely along with all vegetable oils...and if you need a hit of carbs, get yams or sweet potatoes.



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Re: FitClub
« Reply #106 on: November 01, 2017, 09:22:56 AM »

My legs were still aching this morning from Monday mornings leg day!! After this mornings session I can barely walk, it was predominantly chest/arms/back but he threw in some box jumps out of what I can only presume is malice! I could’ve cried 😢 but I didn’t!! 😉
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Re: FitClub
« Reply #107 on: November 01, 2017, 09:34:11 AM »

@BatGoonMcClintock

I 100% get the point that not all calories are equal but I'm not sure how calorie deficit is rubbish.

At the end of the day if you are consuming more calories (even the better ones) than you are burning the body will store the excess energy.If you want to "unstore" all that energy that I have been packing away for the last 20 years then I'm going to have to force my body to start using it.. hence start putting less in the top end.

Personally I have very little sugar in my diet (although I appreciate its in a lot of food unless you prepare it fresh - but then I don't eat a lot of not fresh food), I have plenty of energy (usually) and even when I have gone days without a single refined Carb I'm not sure I have ever craved them.

Obviously I am a bit down right now as people had been saying it looked like my body shape had changed but I kept on saying I saw no difference... I got convinced they must be right so I had been really hopeful that today was going to show the progress other people had said they could see.... Frankly even if they do see it, the numbers don't show it so it looks like I was right after all and I'm just a bit annoyed at myself for getting drawn in to the way other people think they need to motivate me... I don't need to be told how well I am doing, I need to be helped to get the result.

I am fitter... I know that for a fact.... I had just also thought I might be a bit thinner by now.

Onwards and upwards (but hopefully not outwards)

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Re: FitClub
« Reply #108 on: November 01, 2017, 09:35:36 AM »

My legs were still aching this morning from Monday mornings leg day!! After this mornings session I can barely walk, it was predominantly chest/arms/back but he threw in some box jumps out of what I can only presume is malice! I could’ve cried 😢 but I didn’t!! 😉

@JB Haven't graduated to box jumps yet but they are killers....Exercises I've found hardest in terms of increasing difficulty - flat out sprints, shuttle sprints, mountain climbers, weighted box pushing, box jumps, burpees....not up to box jumps and burpees yet while the other four are still killing me.
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Re: FitClub
« Reply #109 on: November 01, 2017, 09:36:36 AM »

My legs were still aching this morning from Monday mornings leg day!! After this mornings session I can barely walk, it was predominantly chest/arms/back but he threw in some box jumps out of what I can only presume is malice! I could’ve cried 😢 but I didn’t!! 😉

Well done... I was joking yesterday about how I couldn't walk for a few days after one of the early sessions... I have learn't to not be too vocal about where is still hurting with my PT as I think he likes to throw in things he wasn't planning to do just out of malice....

all good fun though watching me squirm not ehe floor afterwards... well for him.

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Re: FitClub
« Reply #110 on: November 01, 2017, 09:47:55 AM »

@BatGoonMcClintock

I 100% get the point that not all calories are equal but I'm not sure how calorie deficit is rubbish.

At the end of the day if you are consuming more calories (even the better ones) than you are burning the body will store the excess energy.If you want to "unstore" all that energy that I have been packing away for the last 20 years then I'm going to have to force my body to start using it.. hence start putting less in the top end.

Personally I have very little sugar in my diet (although I appreciate its in a lot of food unless you prepare it fresh - but then I don't eat a lot of not fresh food), I have plenty of energy (usually) and even when I have gone days without a single refined Carb I'm not sure I have ever craved them.

Obviously I am a bit down right now as people had been saying it looked like my body shape had changed but I kept on saying I saw no difference... I got convinced they must be right so I had been really hopeful that today was going to show the progress other people had said they could see.... Frankly even if they do see it, the numbers don't show it so it looks like I was right after all and I'm just a bit annoyed at myself for getting drawn in to the way other people think they need to motivate me... I don't need to be told how well I am doing, I need to be helped to get the result.

@Boondougal Calorie count is meaningless because if you ear 1,200 calories in simple carbs, your body will metabolize far more differently than if you eat 2,000 calories from protein, fat and complex carbs from fruits...therefore, calorie counting is largely meaningless.....I was far slimmer eating 3,500 calories a day from meat and fat than 1,800 calories from a 'balanced' diet that included grains....even though I worked out far less while eating 3,500 calories...

I know everyone gets sugar is the enemy but far more dangerous, because they've been extolled as good, are grains such as wheat, rice, oats and corn.....my turning point was cutting out wheat completely, it is the biggest enemy in how it messes with your insulin, makes you insulin resistant....the easiest way to do this is cut out all grains.

Tell you what....go to Mark's Daily Apple and follow his 30 day challenge....see if it makes a difference, stick with it through the keto flu, low carb flu....if you have to cut down on your exercise, so be it as you may feel sluggish due to low carb intake...your body is learning to get energy from a different source, turning from sugar-alcohol to fat-ketones....give it that space..and if you must exercise, left heavy weights and sprint, short and intense otherwise, walk a lot....https://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-primal-blueprint-30-day-challenge/

Here's all the things you can eat....and without counting calories: https://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-shopping-list/

If it's not on the list, don't eat it....once you're past the 30 days, you can allow yourself a cheat meal once in a while...

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Re: FitClub
« Reply #111 on: November 01, 2017, 09:55:50 AM »

@Boondougal Calorie count is meaningless because if you ear 1,200 calories in simple carbs, your body will metabolize far more differently than if you eat 2,000 calories from protein, fat and complex carbs from fruits...therefore, calorie counting is largely meaningless.....I was far slimmer eating 3,500 calories a day from meat and fat than 1,800 calories from a 'balanced' diet that included grains....even though I worked out far less while eating 3,500 calories...

I know everyone gets sugar is the enemy but far more dangerous, because they've been extolled as good, are grains such as wheat, rice, oats and corn.....my turning point was cutting out wheat completely, it is the biggest enemy in how it messes with your insulin, makes you insulin resistant....the easiest way to do this is cut out all grains.

Tell you what....go to Mark's Daily Apple and follow his 30 day challenge....see if it makes a difference, stick with it through the keto flu, low carb flu....if you have to cut down on your exercise, so be it as you may feel sluggish due to low carb intake...your body is learning to get energy from a different source, turning from sugar-alcohol to fat-ketones....give it that space..and if you must exercise, left heavy weights and sprint, short and intense otherwise, walk a lot....https://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-primal-blueprint-30-day-challenge/

Here's all the things you can eat....and without counting calories: https://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-shopping-list/

If it's not on the list, don't eat it....once you're past the 30 days, you can allow yourself a cheat meal once in a while...

Ok cheers, I have seen that mentioned a few times. I'll have a read through and see what makes sense. I guess at the end of the day there is a logic to winding back the evolutionary clock to eating and moving like we used to.

Appreciate the input.
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Re: FitClub
« Reply #112 on: November 01, 2017, 11:56:55 AM »

Well 10 PT sessions down, an extra 10k calories burnt compared to the month before (I've been doing a few home sessions as well), alcohol more than halved, Yellow / white food (bread, potatoes rice etc) reduced 80%, seriously daily attempts at calorie deficit. Money spent, pain and suffering powered through and today was checkpoint one against my baseline measurements....

No change, zero (well virtually), infact my calf has got bigger (and they were already big) and so has my chest (man boobs) which I guess is why I thought my tummy had shrunk a bit.

Not an ideal start to the day.... and I can't even go and comfort eat to help me through it..... I have a training session this afternoon to get through.

:-(

Hang in there... I've read weight loss stories where people haven't lost much and by their 10th week they suddenly lose 3-4 pounds... chances are their body as changing composition of muscle and fat... everyone is different... I got weighed this morning, I am down 3 lbs from first starting... 3 rd week.. been up and down... like I said before as long as you are feeling healthier it means you are progressing...

Keep going... it's great there's a thread to keep us all motivated and its not on a health forum :), but on a forum for a sport we all share the love of.
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Re: FitClub
« Reply #113 on: November 01, 2017, 01:20:36 PM »

I am really lacking any form of motivation! I'm stuck in the CBA routine/ill start next week.... :( :(
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Re: FitClub
« Reply #114 on: November 01, 2017, 01:29:41 PM »

I am really lacking any form of motivation! I'm stuck in the CBA routine/ill start next week.... :( :(

Thats why I forced myself to start with a personal trainer... my Gym membership that I have had for a year and been 3 times just isn't going to make me go.... with the PT I go and an hour later without having to think about what to do I have had a really good work out... Everything has started from that, I'm drinking less because I know I'm going to be pushed and I want to be able to get the most out of what I am paying for... I keep the appointment because I know I've paid for it (and its not an unseen direct debit going out every month that I never look at), I'm eating better because I know I need the right food to be able to exercise properly etc etc

Ok so the measurements today were a bit disappointing but I have lost weight (about 2/3kg) in 3.5 weeks and i am in no doubt I am fitter so it is working.

The sessions are tough, but not as tough as it was to actually decide to do the first one....

Today I have a session at 2:30, based on this morning I could have jacked it all in... but right now I'm going to that session to push myself even harder than ever - I turned down the 3rd run too many times last year... I don't want to have to do that again next.

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Re: FitClub
« Reply #115 on: November 01, 2017, 01:35:13 PM »

@Boondougal - trust the process not the results. it will take time to achieve the results you are looking for but they will come if you stick with the process.

give yourself time and don't let short term results impact your long term goal.

go well and keep pushing. you will get there!!!!
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Re: FitClub
« Reply #116 on: November 01, 2017, 01:57:54 PM »

@Boondougal - trust the process not the results. it will take time to achieve the results you are looking for but they will come if you stick with the process.

give yourself time and don't let short term results impact your long term goal.

go well and keep pushing. you will get there!!!!

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Re: FitClub
« Reply #117 on: November 01, 2017, 02:04:37 PM »

@Mpt7 great advice.. like that "trust the process"... I think its about having patience.

Well done @Boondougal on shedding the first few Kgs! I went with a PT or the very same reasons as you... today was the hardest getting out of bed experience so far.

I crawled pout of bed at 7.20 and got to my 7.30 session at 7.40.. Had I not had a session with the PT I would have made excuses and not gone... After the session I felt glad I had gone... and on the way into work picked up a  salad for lunch...

All because I'm logging my food and PT..makes a massive difference!

Lets keep this log going and pushing each other... I find it comforting there's someone out there like @Boondougal who likes cricket and is on the same journey with me...
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Re: FitClub
« Reply #118 on: November 01, 2017, 05:37:48 PM »

@Boondougal - trust the process not the results. it will take time to achieve the results you are looking for but they will come if you stick with the process.

give yourself time and don't let short term results impact your long term goal.

go well and keep pushing. you will get there!!!!

@Boondougal I think you're being too hard on yourself mate...2-3 kgs in 3 weeks is no mean feat, that's 1 inch off your waist which is a big deal, which is also why others comment that you look better even if you don't feel it yourself.

As @Mpt7 said, just trust the process...I stopped weighing myself.  I just try on clothes I know I wore when I was slimmer and measure my progress that way.  Also measure my progress by fitness...am I faster, am I lifting heavier, are my rest times dropping, is my heart rate lower, etc.  I'm guessing 5 months of this should get me to where I need to be for next season.
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Re: FitClub
« Reply #119 on: November 01, 2017, 06:40:06 PM »

My legs were still aching this morning from Monday mornings leg day!! After this mornings session I can barely walk, it was predominantly chest/arms/back but he threw in some box jumps out of what I can only presume is malice! I could’ve cried 😢 but I didn’t!! 😉

With all due respect why you hire a PT.
No one knows your body better than you. i am sure here there will be a number of members quite knowledgeable to help you get you goal.

In my opinion getting a PT is waste of money . I see lots of people in my gym with PT wasting their hard earned money. the fees you pay to PT you can easily buy your food for 3 days.
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