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Re: FitClub
« Reply #60 on: October 29, 2017, 01:11:49 PM »

Quick question so I know I'm doing things correctly-
Do I need to work out my basic metabolic rate for calorie consumption?There is so much information in books and online I find it all a tad confusing!
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« Reply #61 on: October 29, 2017, 01:46:39 PM »

With exercise I find you need to think about the following:
1. What are your short term goals?
2. What is your situation?
3. What equipment?
4. How often?

1. Short term goal? I think about things in 3 month periods! A lot can change in 3 months and you goals may change too. For example your job may take you to another location which means that you have more/less opportunity to train. Plus you may find that you only fancy training twice a week instead of the 4 times you were aiming for when you started!
2. Can you get to a gym easily? What is the gym like? Do they have a class which you would enjoy? Do you work late? Is time limited?
3. Can you get to a gym? If you can only work out at home, then do you have dumbbells? Or would it be only body weight exercises? Do you have somewhere you could comfortably work out without annoying the family?
4.How often could you genuinely and REALISTICALLY work out?

The above were the kinds of questions i had to address. I was working in Leamington Spa most days which is a 120mile round trip daily. But I was mostly working 8am until 6pm ish. Therefore I joined a gym close to work, went there after work, hopped on the treadmill for an hour and drove home. It meant I avoided most of the traffic, got a decent cardio workout in, and could hop in the shower as soon as I got home and felt refreshed.
But that changed when I got put more locally where there was not a gym I was interested in so did some T25 at home when I could.
What I am trying to say is that unless you work 140 hours a week, there is no excuse for not getting some exercise in! I trained for the London Marathon when my kids were young and felt that I never got to sit down, but it becomes easier!

Current situation for me is that I work from home mainly Mon-Thurs and go into office on Fridays.
So found a local gym which is small but never busy. Opening times are rubbish (M-T until 8pm, Fri until 6pm and Sat until 1pm, closed Sunday)
So built program around my situation and the opening times!
Basically do a couple of 10km runs on treadmill. One steep incline walk for 45 mins. One intervals. Then a couple of upper body intense dumbbell workouts! Most is running/cardio which is my focus at my age (early 50s)
So 4 cardio days. And I fit the 2 upper body dumbbel workouts in with the treadmill intervals and incline walk. I am in therefore in the gym for 60-80 mins 4 times a week. If I worked from office I would have to plan something different!   
That is the situation covered. Short term goals are to get fitter with running. I stay focused on these goals by simply looking at events to do in 2018. I (unsuccessfully) applied for a London Marathon place. Also looking at  couple of half marathons plus a tough mudder and local 10km events - these are done in order that I keep my focus and motivation! Another motivation next year will be cricket!!
 
So equipment wise is good as I have the gym! Although I only ensure I focus on what I need and don't get sidetracked. i know which dumbbells I need for upper body (lighter dumbbells as just trying to tone up) and a bench and treadmill!
How often needs to be consistent too. I know I aim for Sat am, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday evening. If I get caught up working then the important thing is don't beat yourself up! If I find myself having to work later one evening, then I just try to do 3 or 4 sets or 20 pressups instead for example, so that I feel I substituted the gym with something else! Even if you don't then the important thing is to stick the rest of the weeks schedule!

Basically consistency is the important thing! Both with exercise, rest and diet. Once you find the best schedule which works for you, don't over complicate it and try to stick to it for the next few months! 
Eat healthily, get enough sleep and exercise regularly! The rest should take care of itself.
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Re: FitClub
« Reply #62 on: October 29, 2017, 01:57:50 PM »

When it comes to calories, I just ensure I eat healthily. I also treat myself to a tub of haagen Daas salted carame ice cream or similar every now and then!
The way I look at it, I just want to keep a decent level of fitness and not be too fat or heavy! Not bothered about being ripped or a 6-pack! Leave that one to the mirror hoggers!
Therefore I eat mainly sensilby decent stir fries, fish, rice, salads, and I have a healthy shake with fruit, hemp seeds, chia seeds and mixed other seeds plus apricot kernels every morning. I never count calories as i know that I will burn off 1200 calories when I run an hour on the treadmill! I also have salad cream or mayo on my salads, have sweet chilli sauce on stir fries, ketchup or relish on burgers, etc! No point in making food taste totally bland!! But this works for me, and may not work for others - depends what your ultimate goals are! My heart and lungs are the most important things to look after in my eyes! Toning up is just the fine tuning for me.
If you want to look at how many calories in each morsel of food, then go for it. I just prefer to know that I am eating healthily, exercising and getting fitter and toning up gradually. 
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Re: FitClub
« Reply #63 on: October 29, 2017, 01:58:57 PM »

Quick question so I know I'm doing things correctly-
Do I need to work out my basic metabolic rate for calorie consumption?There is so much information in books and online I find it all a tad confusing!
I say ditch all books and online you will only confuse yourself.

Start with 2000 calories a day for 3 months. Measure your waist and weigh yourself.  Repeat after 3 months if you have lost size and weight means you on right track. If not reduce another 300 calories or so.

And regarding working out do Sqats,deadlifts, overhead presses, bench presses, barbell rows.  These are basic and most demanding exercises.

1 gram protein is 4 calories
1 gram carb is 4
1 gram fat is 9.

Use it as guideline and start and see how you get along. Any further question just text me I be happy to help.
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Re: FitClub
« Reply #64 on: October 29, 2017, 02:02:50 PM »

If someome could just make the food for me I'd happily eat it!!

No chance of me cutting out food, went shopping just now. Somehow came home with a litre bottle of cider, a litre of milkshake and salami (which is now gone).

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« Reply #65 on: October 29, 2017, 02:04:06 PM »

Don't forget age Pete too

Depends on what age you are and what you've done in your past regarding exercise etc

I'm nearly fifty now,my work life has always involved heavy lifting etc, and I've had hobbies, played sport that's all taken its toll on my body, (cricket,football,motocross)
I have tennis/golfers elbow, wrist damage, even muscle wastage in my palms? Etc etc

So nowadays I have to train a little cleverer to not overtrain, or cause further damage.
I've said this a few times, but I love kettlebells, I find the shape etc. Just better than machines/dumbells etc
I can use one weight and do a full workout, shoulders,biceps triceps ,squats etc etc, without RISKING injury etc through trying to lift too much,,,,,just up the reps to failure

My goals are more mobility and strength and to lose the dangerous for health,spare tyre I have.
I'm long past the vanity muscle building , that's just a slippery slope.

Calorie wise, stick under 2k if you can a day

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« Reply #66 on: October 29, 2017, 02:19:56 PM »

Chaps,
I got on the fitness bandwagon sometime in July.  I'd been off and on for various reasons but I've been back on it the past 3-4 weeks.  It's working because it's very simple but initially difficult.

1. 80% is diet - I've had great success on low-carb diets previously, so much so I'd lost 15 kgs and 6-7 inches off my waist in 3 months.  I will disabuse some myths:-low carb is not low calorie, in fact I never count calories, I go though 2-3 packets of butter a week.  Just like you don't count your vitamin IUs, you don't need to count calories.  Just eat the right food and stop eating when you feel satiated.

2. Eat only fresh foods, if it's in a packet, throw it out, no processed food - fresh meat, fresh vegetables and fruits, butter, ghee, animal fats, olive oil, unrefined coconut oil, etc.  Qunoa is the only grain that's tolerated if you need massive amount of carbs, most people don't.

3. Avoid only a few things - sugar, grains, ALL vegetable oils, refined oils, fizzy drinks - Coke was my biggest weakness, I'd drink 3-4 cans a day....completely gone now.

4. Your body will tell you how much carbs you need - what works for someone else will not work for you.  For me, I can't do ultra-low carbs (less than 50gm per day), I'm happiest between 50-100 am per day.  If you are an endurance athlete (scoring 400 runs every day), perhaps over 100gm is justified.

5. Dark chocolate in moderation - above 70% but I tend to cheat with this

6. 2 days of HIIT - I got myself a trainer to keep motivation levels up, we do 2 hours a week - one day we incorporate shuttle sprints, another day, it's pushing weights on a box to simulate mountain climbing which I find the most difficult - circuit weight training on other days.  I'm trying to incorporate an additional day of sprints or HIIT and I net 3 hours a week in addition, plenty of exercise.

7. Sleep

Result: I've dropped 2-3 inches around my waist, face is more chisled, 4 seconds off my shuttle sprint time from 3 months ago - 34 secs dropped to 30 secs

I've still got 5-6 inches to lose around the waist, not worried about weight, just inches - and want to continue improving sprint times and also slowly begin incorporating endurance training - simulating quick singles.  Also want to do more squats and shoulder presses with higher weights to just get more explosive.

Want to incorporate intermittent fasting as well.  When I did this 5 years ago, I would eat all I wanted between 11 am to 6 pm, usually 3,000 calories or more and then nothing for 17 hours.  Never had more energy.

The first 3-4 weeks is most difficult.  The key is to get the body to metabolize ketones which are derived from fats rather than burning sugar.  So if you cut out ready carbs, the body must convert body fat to ketones.

Warning: low carb flu, massive headaches, extreme irritation possible in the first 2-3 weeks though not for everyone...first time I did it in 2012, I was convinced I had a brain tumour and I was going to die and a doctor tried to dissuade me, thankfully I didn't listen.

Great resource and inspirational stories: Mark's Daily Apple - https://www.marksdailyapple.com/

One thing Paleo people advise and I agree - short, explosive is better than long, repetitive - both for fitness gains and for body management - I used to run 5Ks regularly but won't be doing those....I'd rather run 100 20 yard dashes at top speed...hopefully with pads on...and if I want to get fitter, I will just sprint 150...right now, I'm probably at 15-20 sprints at top speed, so a ways to go
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Re: FitClub
« Reply #67 on: October 29, 2017, 02:21:54 PM »

Ive found doing park run every sat helps keeps motivation up for me

Started training for a 10K now as started to enjoy it
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Re: FitClub
« Reply #68 on: October 29, 2017, 03:18:30 PM »

Don't forget age Pete too

Depends on what age you are and what you've done in your past regarding exercise etc

I'm nearly fifty now,my work life has always involved heavy lifting etc, and I've had hobbies, played sport that's all taken its toll on my body, (cricket,football,motocross)
I have tennis/golfers elbow, wrist damage, even muscle wastage in my palms? Etc etc

So nowadays I have to train a little cleverer to not overtrain, or cause further damage.
I've said this a few times, but I love kettlebells, I find the shape etc. Just better than machines/dumbells etc
I can use one weight and do a full workout, shoulders,biceps triceps ,squats etc etc, without RISKING injury etc through trying to lift too much,,,,,just up the reps to failure

My goals are more mobility and strength and to lose the dangerous for health,spare tyre I have.
I'm long past the vanity muscle building , that's just a slippery slope.

Calorie wise, stick under 2k if you can a day

Only just seen this thread.... for me Northern is exactly right age and past plays a massive part in this....

I am 38 and have been keeping wicket for 25 years... Some of which at a very high level playing long days of cricket... basically my knees are pretty shot now!

However this doesn't mean I can't be as fit as i can be, just a different type of fit and exercise in a different way.

I know I can get through a whole innings and carry my bat fitness wise and then keep for an innings but will I be able to move on Sunday and fully train in the week.... probably not  :( :(

It's just about managing my body, eating healthy and training sensibly.
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Re: FitClub
« Reply #69 on: October 29, 2017, 03:30:16 PM »

Only just seen this thread.... for me Northern is exactly right age and past plays a massive part in this....

I am 38 and have been keeping wicket for 25 years... Some of which at a very high level playing long days of cricket... basically my knees are pretty shot now!

However this doesn't mean I can't be as fit as i can be, just a different type of fit and exercise in a different way.

I know I can get through a whole innings and carry my bat fitness wise and then keep for an innings but will I be able to move on Sunday and fully train in the week.... probably not  :( :(

It's just about managing my body, eating healthy and training sensibly.

Exactly, massive kudos to some on here losing huge amounts of weight. Just done an hour brisk walk round the park and intend to do that every Sunday, that's not going to get me super fit, just to keep weight off and when it comes to the season I can do 50 overs in the field without being shatterd.

Although I'm vaping for England , the single most i important thing I've done is quit fags, lung capacity has come back pretty quick and rarely do I get out of breath.

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« Reply #70 on: October 29, 2017, 04:20:42 PM »

I bought a bowflex max trainer machine for the house a couple of weeks ago so I could supplement the gym sessions with a workout at home. Found it really good, there’s a 14 min interval programme that I can burn 260 calories. Gets me a massive sweat on
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« Reply #71 on: October 29, 2017, 04:27:10 PM »

I'm eating less crap and more whole foods, non processed.  On whey protein shakes as well on training days/ day after and I'm seeing a great improvement.  Training 3-4 times a week and loving it! Losing fat off my chest and slowly the gut, which will go with time.  Not counting calories too much just eating better!

Looking forward to turning up to the first net and not being able to get my arm over!
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« Reply #72 on: October 29, 2017, 04:49:45 PM »

My problem is lack of power/strength in my shots so I’m trying to add strength and muscle. I got a second hand squat rack and downloaded StrongLifts app and am 3 weeks in. Unlike some you guys I’m having to try and eat more than usual but still eat healthy. Weekend of beer always seems to waste a lot of good work! My training partner is moving away in Dec so I hope I can maintain effort and enthusiasm after he is gone.
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« Reply #73 on: October 29, 2017, 07:08:30 PM »

So good to see people recognising the benefits of fitness for cricket. People who don't play must think its standing around in a field but its actually a very explosive sport there are so many different physical strains on the body i'm not sure there is a sport requires so many different attributes. you need speed, power, co-ordination, agility, powers of concentration and a good level or aerobic fitness which can all be improved by working on your fitness levels.

Diet- Like most of you have said no need to count calories as long as you are eating healthy nutrient rich foods like fish and vegetables I'm between 10-12% body fat and i haven't counted a calorie in my life. The biggest thing that keeps me on track is meal prep. I make enough bircher Sunday night to do 4/5 days of my working week for breakfast (Good carbs, plenty of fruit and protein). The other day I usually fry 2/3 eggs and whack it on a bit of toasted sourdough. I usually make extras of what i have in the evenings and freeze and use for lunches and at weekends. I also supplement with protein shakes for a low calorie protein hit (Helps keep you hydrated on match days)

Training- I've always been a bit of a fitness nut but only in the last couple of years have I started tailoring it too cricket. I usually do 2/3 weight sessions a week with a upper and lower body focus each time (Squats,Deadlifts,Bench,Back rows etc) and then 2/3 cardio based sessions a week (4 mile Run at lunch one day, Badminton,HITT class or 500mx5 on the rower AFAP each session followed by some core work) I've recently added skipping at the end of my weight sessions for a bit of added cardio and the added benefits of added co ordination and speed (Also feel a bit lighter on my feet).

There are some really good articles on pitchvison- http://www.pitchvision.com/the-complete-guide-to-cricket-fitness/#/ which have really helped my make my training more specific.

If anyone wants some healthy meal ideas PM me I'm a product development chef by trade. Would love to somehow combine what I do day to day with cricket. Maybe become a private chef for all the England cricket lads (Footballers seem to have them so why not Cricketers!)

Sorry for the waffling but its an area of the game I'm particularly interested in!
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« Reply #74 on: October 29, 2017, 07:37:07 PM »

I bought a bowflex max trainer machine for the house a couple of weeks ago so I could supplement the gym sessions with a workout at home. Found it really good, there’s a 14 min interval programme that I can burn 260 calories. Gets me a massive sweat on

Hmm couple on fleabay at the mo
Looks a decent bit of kit
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