Topic: Ashes 2017-18 (Read 426784 times)

Northern monkey · « **Reply #1965 on:** December 10, 2017, 07:43:08 AM »

Kp thinks cooks past it?
I think this test will be a big question on cooks future
He has to make a score, at any level no one deserves a place based on past performances or what they might do if all the planets align etc

The test side is under huge scrutiny and it would be nice to think these lads can show some grit and put in a performance worthy of the three lions
Sick of hearing about off field antics etc, it's boring now

And stokes performance in nz means nothing
Stick him in front of a big crowd and he will step up

Number4 · « **Reply #1966 on:** December 10, 2017, 08:10:32 AM »

Quote from: Northern monkey on December 10, 2017, 07:43:08 AM

Kp thinks cooks past it?
I think this test will be a big question on cooks future
He has to make a score, at any level no one deserves a place based on past performances or what they might do if all the planets align etc

The test side is under huge scrutiny and it would be nice to think these lads can show some grit and put in a performance worthy of the three lions
Sick of hearing about off field antics etc, it's boring now

And stokes performance in nz means nothing
Stick him in front of a big crowd and he will step up

But he isn�t performing... At any level... isn�t that what you said?

Northern monkey · « **Reply #1967 on:** December 10, 2017, 08:12:46 AM »

Yeah absolutely

Blokes past it in my eyes, but I'm sure one or two will beg to differ

And hopefully he proves me wrong

Bwcc · « **Reply #1968 on:** December 10, 2017, 08:54:43 AM »

What do people think of Tom Curran being called into the side? 77 not out in the tour game pick of the bowlers with wood in the 1st innings and 3 of 4 wickets do far in the second at by far the best rate
Can�t decide on crane and leach either because from the figures it looks that they bowled very well first innings but are taking an absolute pounding in this one

Calzehbhoy · « **Reply #1969 on:** December 10, 2017, 09:16:08 AM »

Didn�t Cook average in the 90�s in the CC last year from a decent amount of games?? It maybe a bit premature to say he is past it.

Cook has, and always has had, one of those techniques that just looks terrible when everything isn�t 100%. When he clicks the runs will come back.

Calzehbhoy · « **Reply #1970 on:** December 10, 2017, 09:18:00 AM »

Quote from: Bwcc on December 10, 2017, 08:54:43 AM

What do people think of Tom Curran being called into the side? 77 not out in the tour game pick of the bowlers with wood in the 1st innings and 3 of 4 wickets do far in the second at by far the best rate
Can�t decide on crane and leach either because from the figures it looks that they bowled very well first innings but are taking an absolute pounding in this one

Another right hander bowling low-mid 80�s. The attack is all too samey and unfortunately he doesn�t change that, if he was the same but left hand for some variety I think he�d have a chance

ppccopener · « **Reply #1971 on:** December 10, 2017, 09:26:14 AM »

Quote from: Calzehbhoy on December 10, 2017, 09:18:00 AM

Another right hander bowling low-mid 80�s. The attack is all too samey and unfortunately he doesn�t change that, if he was the same but left hand for some variety I think he�d have a chance

I think his brother is let arm over, we do need some variety in our attack whether that is spin(I think crane should play myself) or pace which is much harder to find.

Whatever T Curran is doing in the links game he is just another medium pacer who can bat.

Def got talent but we need options at test level to go forward. England want a spinner, after Swann we have struggled, Dawson,Rashid didn't work out , not sure about Leach to be honest...

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #1972 on:** December 10, 2017, 09:45:29 AM »

Quote from: InternalTraining on December 10, 2017, 12:22:19 AM

Ok. Bayliss clearly has no understanding of media scrutiny, code of conduct, and team discipline. Bayliss should call you for guidance.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/21716851/players-behaviour-totally-unacceptable-trevor-bayliss

Well if He does get the call he can't do a worse job than Bayliss

Number4 · « **Reply #1973 on:** December 10, 2017, 10:06:12 AM »

Quote from: Northern monkey on December 10, 2017, 08:12:46 AM

Yeah absolutely

Blokes past it in my eyes, but I'm sure one or two will beg to differ

And hopefully he proves me wrong

I was referring to Stokes... He isn�t performing at any level... You can�t pick players on past performances... Can you?

ppccopener · « **Reply #1974 on:** December 10, 2017, 10:09:00 AM »

Quote from: Number4 on December 10, 2017, 10:06:12 AM

I was referring to Stokes... He isn�t performing at any level... You can�t pick players on past performances... Can you?

Surely you are joking

Northern monkey · « **Reply #1975 on:** December 10, 2017, 10:09:48 AM »

What happened with rashid?

We need to dig out a genuine quick from somewhere

Get Patel out there too

Are there no pros plying there trade in grade cricket over there at the minute
Aussies dug Agar out of the English leagues and he didn't too bad

Stokes!!
Ignoring what he's done for a minute, the blokes on a different planet to the rest of our lads

Number4 · « **Reply #1976 on:** December 10, 2017, 10:12:06 AM »

Quote from: ppccopener on December 10, 2017, 09:26:14 AM

I think his brother is let arm over, we do need some variety in our attack whether that is spin(I think crane should play myself) or pace which is much harder to find.

Whatever T Curran is doing in the links game he is just another medium pacer who can bat.

Def got talent but we need options at test level to go forward. England want a spinner, after Swann we have struggled, Dawson,Rashid didn't work out , not sure about Leach to be honest...

I think Crane would get eaten alive at test level.. You can�t just pick a spinner because he is a spinner... He hasn�t shown anything special in the tour match as yet has he?

Number4 · « **Reply #1977 on:** December 10, 2017, 10:17:03 AM »

Quote from: ppccopener on December 10, 2017, 10:09:00 AM

Surely you are joking

So Cook has a couple of poor matches and he is past it ( leading Test run scorer for England) and everyone wants him axed but Stokes can�t score runs against club cricketers and he is instantly in the side? Ok Ok you guys are desperate I know

Northern monkey · « **Reply #1978 on:** December 10, 2017, 10:24:01 AM »

Hey mr number 4
Think your missing my point,

'I' personally think cooks past it, no one else does
And I hope beyond hope he proves me hugely wrong

Stokes is playing a decent club?? Standard over there
Doesn't mean nothing, he should be taking the mick, but hey ho
Wouldn't be the first to struggle against a lower standard than what he's used too

And can I just put this out there, the ecb are doing there best to destroy English cricket
They've got a hell of a job turning this mess around
I've said it many times , gotta get these dinosaurs out, and have a look at the player pathways etc as to me it's at the expense of genuine talent
The money available to counties needs to be looked at, there has to be coaches,scouts etc available to all
Etc etc etc

Big Mac · « **Reply #1979 on:** December 10, 2017, 10:45:39 AM »

Quote from: Northern monkey on December 10, 2017, 10:09:48 AM

What happened with rashid?

We need to dig out a genuine quick from somewhere

Get Patel out there too

Are there no pros plying there trade in grade cricket over there at the minute
Aussies dug Agar out of the English leagues and he didn't too bad

Stokes!!
Ignoring what he's done for a minute, the blokes on a different planet to the rest of our lads

Rashid was never good enough for test cricket. He's fine in limited overs games where the batsmen go after him and he can buy a couple of wickets but he bowls too much rubbish for the longer format. Fortunately he has time to fix it but I do worry whether the fact he only gets into the team for the white ball games will stop him from working on a decent stock ball and not just a bunch of variations.

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