Topic: Ashes 2017-18 (Read 407516 times)

Kulli · « **Reply #2130 on:** December 15, 2017, 09:36:11 AM »

Quote from: FattusCattus on December 15, 2017, 08:46:36 AM

Hmmm, we look a bit harmless when the wicket flattens out or batters get in. Doesn't seem to be much threat here.

Some of our bowling this series leaves a little to be desired:

Woakes - 6 wkts @ 44.33
Broad - 5 wkts @ 41.80
Ali - 2 wkts @ 106.5

Broad in particular worries me. as a strike bowler he seems rather blunted - I wonder if he has lost 'it'?

Standard Broad isn't it, he's always had spells like this.

golders · « **Reply #2131 on:** December 15, 2017, 09:57:10 AM »

Aus will get 500 plus,which is what we needed!

Johnny · « **Reply #2132 on:** December 15, 2017, 10:58:26 AM »

Wicket aside, Woakes looked toilet today. Doesn't seem able to find the right length in this series.

HallamKeeper · « **Reply #2133 on:** December 15, 2017, 12:36:41 PM »

Quote from: Biggie Smalls on December 12, 2017, 06:16:22 PM

Yeah you're right , no one has the right to do that . The difference between you and the england team players though.....the likelihood of it happening to them is exponentially higher . You have to conduct yourself using all info on the circumstances . If you know you are going to be highly scutinised then you are foolish to give ammunition for scrutiny .
Also , yes , some judgements may be unfair , but we , and the english players, know they are going to happen . I don't think you can really cry foul when the judgements are being made . It's like you want to walk down a street late at night . You know people get beaten up waliking down that street, but you , rightly, feel it is unfair that anyone be beaten up for walking down the street . So , you proceed to walk , and you get beaten up . Yes , it was wrong that you got beaten up , but it was also foolish to take that route/walk that street kowing what you knew . Why not just walk a different street ? Similarly, why not just have a few beers in the privacy of team rooms/hotel etc ?

The annoying thing for me is the hypocrisy of our press. Instead of defending lads being lads, that are normal down to earth people who like a drink, they whip up a storm about nothing. Now the England players will almost certainly block out the press and go back to being robots programmed by their media training.

Also, how many minutes can you listen to cricket commentary without someone mentioning getting drunk? The crowd are hammered and the commentators (the poor ones) love to mention drunken episodes. Sport and alcohol go hand in hand for most people, why the players themselves aren't allowed to get drunk and do something a bit silly, not assault someone, is beyond me. I guess it is because today's favourite hobby is getting upset about bugger all.

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #2134 on:** December 15, 2017, 02:49:34 PM »

Quote from: Johnny on December 15, 2017, 10:58:26 AM

Wicket aside, Woakes looked toilet today. Doesn't seem able to find the right length in this series.

Problem is england seamers are just mid to fast county bowlers works in England when the ball does a bit but not on these Aus flat tracks.
Also The ECB should have given the England bowlers the opportunity to take more Aus wickets and irequested more day night test matches.

edge · « **Reply #2135 on:** December 15, 2017, 03:49:34 PM »

Quote from: HallamKeeper on December 15, 2017, 12:36:41 PM

The annoying thing for me is the hypocrisy of our press. Instead of defending lads being lads, that are normal down to earth people who like a drink, they whip up a storm about nothing. Now the England players will almost certainly block out the press and go back to being robots programmed by their media training.

Also, how many minutes can you listen to cricket commentary without someone mentioning getting drunk? The crowd are hammered and the commentators (the poor ones) love to mention drunken episodes. Sport and alcohol go hand in hand for most people, why the players themselves aren't allowed to get drunk and do something a bit silly, not assault someone, is beyond me. I guess it is because today's favourite hobby is getting upset about bugger all.

'Lads being lads' is not a defence you'll find being put up by any sensible adult, for anything, at any time! As much as it's a storm in a teacup, management have every right to be pissed off with players going out drinking, especially after the Stokes incident. Professional sport is a career that does require some sacrifice and hard work, like not going out and getting pissed up in between games. You're telling me being out late and pissed enough to find lobbing a pint over one of your mates funny isn't going to affect you at training the next day? You certainly wouldn't catch any individual performance athletes doing it.

A thought - why didn't England call up a batting all-rounder to replace Stokes? Feel we'd probably be better off picking our 3 best seamers, a spinner and an all-rounder as 5th bowler, keeping the same balance of the side. Doesn't feel quite right at the moment. Is it just because there's noone who could do the job?

alexhilly1492 · « **Reply #2136 on:** December 15, 2017, 04:55:34 PM »

who would be your batting allrounder?

i can think of samit and thats about it not sure who else in the county circuit is good enough tbh

they stuck with bowlers who bat like woakes, overton, curran and some degree plunkett even though he wasnt picked

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #2137 on:** December 15, 2017, 08:45:10 PM »

Nice to see Bairstow on getting his ton look upto the heavens as if to say that one is for you dad

edge · « **Reply #2138 on:** December 15, 2017, 08:49:46 PM »

Quote from: alexhilly1492 on December 15, 2017, 04:55:34 PM

who would be your batting allrounder?

i can think of samit and thats about it not sure who else in the county circuit is good enough tbh

they stuck with bowlers who bat like woakes, overton, curran and some degree plunkett even though he wasnt picked

Samit's the obvious one. Bowlers who can bat bolster your tail but don't offer the same as a batsman who can reliably turn the arm over - that's why Stokes is so valuable.

ppccopener · « **Reply #2139 on:** December 15, 2017, 08:54:07 PM »

Yes very much so. He may not be a particularly bright cricketer but not everyone comes from a university education.

He's a cricketer it's very easy to like, he has some lovely shots.

Quite why it's taken this long to bat in front of Mo I cannot fathom for the life of me.He is the third, arguably second on form in the last 2 years, best bat in the team.

Without Stokes surely the selectors could see he should be batting 6 at the lowest. But they didn't did they?

Can't help thinking this tour is one we have got wrong and shot ourselves in the foot. That used to happen quite a lot way back, not so much these days thou.

If we were flush with quality batsmen I could understand it...

Northern monkey · « **Reply #2140 on:** December 15, 2017, 09:01:56 PM »

Bairstow in as a batter/gun fielder, buttler in as a keeper/batter and let mo,s finger recover on the bench?

billyb · « **Reply #2141 on:** December 15, 2017, 10:17:11 PM »

One weakness of our side going into this series was always going to be our bowling, but I'm still not sure our batting was set up right!

Hales and Roy are players that would thrive on Aussie decks, and I really would have liked to see them in the side as an aggressive counter to the likes of Warner & Smith. The batting seems quite one dimensional again.
Cook, Stoneman, Hales/Roy, Root, Malan, Bairstow, Ali is how I think we should have lined up.
I wouldn't pick Roy & Hales anywhere other than Australia, mind!

Kulli · « **Reply #2142 on:** December 15, 2017, 10:59:49 PM »

Quote from: Northern monkey on December 15, 2017, 09:01:56 PM

Bairstow in as a batter/gun fielder, buttler in as a keeper/batter and let mo,s finger recover on the bench?

Isn�t Buttlers first class record poop?

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #2143 on:** December 16, 2017, 05:19:22 AM »

People don't half write some drivel.

Kulli · « **Reply #2144 on:** December 16, 2017, 07:03:17 AM »

*Alarm goes off, check the score, roll over and go back to sleep*

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