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iand123

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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2205 on: December 17, 2017, 07:15:31 AM »
Quote from: Nmcgee on December 17, 2017, 07:07:11 AM
Joe Root, when he is switched on, is top 5 in the world. Maybe the captaincy is not for him.

You guys seem to be selecting your team the way the Aussies have for years. Based on reputation, potential and investment by the ACB. This is not a recipe for long term success. Broad is poor and poor Mo Ali is out of form/injured.

Maybe drop a high profile player of two just to send the message.

I suspect that will happen once the series is officially over
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2206 on: December 17, 2017, 08:08:56 AM »
I hope England some how draw this game otherwise rest of the Ashes will be no fun
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2207 on: December 17, 2017, 08:25:23 AM »
What was Vince doing  :( :( :o :o

God when your down you really don't want that delivery do you... FFS.... not sure how you play that with 2 or 3 bats!
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2208 on: December 17, 2017, 08:47:25 AM »
If Foakes is the best keeper going around, why is he not playing?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2209 on: December 17, 2017, 08:51:40 AM »
Rain comes in providing a bit of breather to both teams. Bairstow and Malan need to repeat their first innings performance once again to save this test match and keep the series alive.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2210 on: December 17, 2017, 09:14:18 AM »
Quote from: Nmcgee on December 17, 2017, 08:47:25 AM
If Foakes is the best keeper going around, why is he not playing?
because Bairstow’s keepig is one of the things that hasn’t been an absolute shambles so far?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2211 on: December 17, 2017, 09:20:45 AM »
Cook really should be dropped as completely out of touch. The problem is they don't have an obvious replacement so can't see it happening. Broad also very poor so needs to go. I'm a big Moeen fan but he's just not contributing at the moment. If as expected we lose tomorrow I'd drop all 3.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2212 on: December 17, 2017, 09:41:23 AM »
Quote from: ppccopener on December 17, 2017, 06:17:59 AM
I'm still drunk from last night but I don't think cook has been out like that before!

He is the one we needed to bat for a day, maybe the mental strength to do that is going
We know Cook has a career  of highs and lows
I think he still has the desire he's practiceing hard  and spending extra time with the England batting coach but like 3 of the 4 second innings  England wickets he played the wrong shot 
More concerned about  that shot of Root s has  the pressure got to him.
Corker of a ball from Starc to get Vince.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2213 on: December 17, 2017, 09:54:42 AM »
I don't think any description can do that ball justice...

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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2214 on: December 17, 2017, 09:56:00 AM »
Quote from: Seniorplayer on December 17, 2017, 09:41:23 AM
I think he still has the desire he's practiceing hard but like 3 of the 4 second innings  England wickets he played the wrong shot.
More concerned about  that shot of Root s as  the pressure got to him.
Corker of a ball from Starc to get Vince.


Difficult to find a replacement for Cook at the moment but he goes thru these patches, he looks out of sorts to me having watched him since he started. We still need him I think if he has the desire to continue.

The cracks are appearing in our tam and that happens under pressure, they have been there before overseas.

England need now strong long term management for the team. I have my doubts we have it but it's a simple question that must be asked:

How do we get the absolute best out of our players in all conditions?

Root is not going to be a good captain and it will affect his batting.

Tough calls needs to me made. He is a diamond we need to look after. In my opinion.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2215 on: December 17, 2017, 09:56:36 AM »
Shame he got that, he was looking good,,,(vince)
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2216 on: December 17, 2017, 09:57:50 AM »
For anyone who starts suggesting changes... It needs to be from what we've got as the Lions have flown home and they only asked Wood to stay in AUS.

In other news apparently Ramps has been offered a new 2 year contract to be Batting Coach across all formats.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2217 on: December 17, 2017, 09:59:18 AM »
Quote from: beaver5 on December 17, 2017, 09:20:45 AM
Cook really should be dropped as completely out of touch. The problem is they don't have an obvious replacement so can't see it happening. Broad also very poor so needs to go. I'm a big Moeen fan but he's just not contributing at the moment. If as expected we lose tomorrow I'd drop all 3.

Can't see Cook being dropped  think he's still got three seasons left in him
Wouldn't drop Broad we know what he capable of and at times he's bowled well pitched the ball up  could have had wickets and he's been let down by dropped catches Woakes as been a disappointment you can't keep bowling short in Aus on flat tracks
Maybe if England lose   They should  drop  him for Curran or Wood.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2218 on: December 17, 2017, 09:59:59 AM »
Can we swap the one day squad for these?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #2219 on: December 17, 2017, 10:02:47 AM »
Sorry senior but I disagree on all that
The mentality of keeping players in based on past performance etc, is wrong.
These lads are professional players paid to perform, not sign autographs, look good etc etc
You pick your best current players full stop

Or stop paying em
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