Topic: Ashes 2017-18 (Read 407604 times)

FattusCattus · « **Reply #105 on:** September 25, 2017, 07:39:07 PM »

Looking at the possibility that there are up to 2 vacancies in our top order - let us consider the 'form' players in first classe cricket.

Qualifying, leading run scorers in both divisions include:

Burns
Browne (Essex)
Balance
Davis (Lancs)
Robson
Wells
Denly
Northeast
Clarke (Worcs)
Patel

Would any of the those be worth parachuting into the squad?

For me - Sam Robson, Samit Patel and Sam Northeast would all have the requisite balance of talent and experience. But are any of them in with even a remote chance?

Alvaro · « **Reply #106 on:** September 25, 2017, 07:47:14 PM »

I agree with your analysis. Robson is a better bet for reserve opener than Jennings.

Samit would be my spin/batsman in case Ali goes down with chicken pox.

Northeast is like Hildreth, too many good runs scored under the pretence it's all a bit too easy wherever they bat.

edge · « **Reply #107 on:** September 25, 2017, 09:01:52 PM »

Yep I reckon you've smashed nail right ont head there Fattus, I'd take at least two of those and probably all 3.

Quick squad check...
Bankers:
Batters - Cook, Root
All-rounders - Stokes, Ali
Keepers - YJB
Bowlers - Woakes, Broad, Anderson

Highly likely:
Batters - Stoneman, Malan
Keepers - Foakes

Which is 4 batsmen, 2 all-rounders, 2 keepers and 3 seamers = 11 players.

Assuming the usual 17 man squad, that leaves 6 spots. Need a no3, backup spinner, at least one spare batsman and at least two seamers. Who are you picking CBF?

edge · « **Reply #108 on:** September 25, 2017, 09:10:08 PM »

I think I'm taking Robson, Samit Patel and Plunkett for sure. Then probably Overton and Northeast. Last spot goes to another contender for the top 3, I'm just not sure who!

Harry L · « **Reply #109 on:** September 25, 2017, 09:14:20 PM »

Cook
Hameed
Stoneman
Root
Hales
Stokes
Bairstow
Ali
Woakes
Broad
Anderson

Foakes,Malan,Plunkett,Rashid,Robson and A Nother.

Pretty worried about our bowling line up, it�s all a bit samey. Which is why I�d be tempted to take a left arm spinner or seamer so Patel or leach. No great left arm seamers come to mind? Most teams have one these days e.g Starc,Amir,Boult etc
Hopefully it will be Sam curran in a couple of years time.

ppccopener · « **Reply #110 on:** September 25, 2017, 09:28:19 PM »

Fat cat has thrown a rock into CBF selection and if we need 6 players we are in trouble against the old enemy.

Thank god all there bowlers are crocked , they only have 2 batsmen smith and Warner, and their keeper is no good.

I'm taking plunkett he has pace and if it gets tasty he looks very much like he punches first and asks questions later.

Wood cannot go, he cannot string two tests together, I'm sorry for all the Wood fans (I'm one too) but it's Simon Jones all over again.....if you can dine on one series the Welshman takes the biscuit bowling Clarke as he shoulders arms in 2005. Get in !!

Sorry got sidetracked in nostalgia.

Plunkett in, jake ball in even thou someone said he has turned into a turd, I've seen him live he's got pace and height.

Second spinner Crane for me, unproven but cannot see him playing more than one test in Oz

Batting causes me headaches, I don't think Westley is ready/good enough, hameed has paper hands, back to Ballance?

Hmmm...I think big Pete mentioned James Vince, I think I will take him and hope he has grown a brain, he's got the shots but you can't play them all thru the covers at once.
Stoneman goes, Foakes as back up keeper, Malan starts the tests for me, bit surprised but he has something about him
Apart from that I don't know

Alvaro · « **Reply #111 on:** September 25, 2017, 09:35:02 PM »

Oh for a Chris Tremlett-style automaton.

Alvaro · « **Reply #112 on:** September 25, 2017, 09:35:58 PM »

And, with the greatest respect @ppccopener anyone picking Mason Crane needs a lie down in a darkened room.

edge · « **Reply #113 on:** September 25, 2017, 09:49:55 PM »

Quote from: Alvaro on September 25, 2017, 09:35:02 PM

Oh for a Chris Tremlett-style automaton.

6'8" automatons built like a brick proverbial who bowl rapid lifters for England in Ashes tests are very much the best kind of automatons.

golders · « **Reply #114 on:** September 25, 2017, 09:50:17 PM »

Ashes 2017-18: England squad - as chosen by BBC Sport users - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/41366988

No Vince and no Overton as options with this poll, both are being tipped as surprise inclusions. Vince looked classy but loved a soft dismissal-has much changed? His numbers aren't great this year. I have a feeling Hales will miss out, due to being susceptible against the short ball, eg:
https://youtu.be/Nxzg_yMnVYk

Root does well at 3 in the odi's, but seemingly won't do it....

I fear it will be a shootout between Ballance or Vince.
Who would I go for? I have no idea,I'm as confused as our selectors...

ppccopener · « **Reply #115 on:** September 25, 2017, 09:50:21 PM »

Quote from: Alvaro on September 25, 2017, 09:35:58 PM

And, with the greatest respect @ppccopener anyone picking Mason Crane needs a lie down in a darkened room.

I can't think of anyone else apart from Samit and if we are not taking him as the third spinner in India he's not getting a gig.

I'm going with Crane ....Leach???

ppccopener · « **Reply #116 on:** September 25, 2017, 09:52:39 PM »

Quote from: edge on September 25, 2017, 09:49:55 PM

6'8" automatons built like a brick proverbial who bowl rapid lifters for England in Ashes tests are very much the best kind of automatons.

Tremlett came close to the boundary when we were at lorda s couple of years back and I thought it was one human on top of another human and moulded together.

petehosk · « **Reply #117 on:** September 25, 2017, 09:56:44 PM »

I do like Vince but just think that there are people on better form!

Top order:
Cook, Stoneman, Robson, Root,
Hales, Malan, Ballance

All Rounders:
Stokes, Ali

Keepers:
Foakes, Bairstow

Bowlers:
Woakes, Broad, Anderson, Plunkett, Finn
Rashid

No Hameed or TRJ due to injuries!
No Crane as he is not ready, and needs more experience!
Finn for his height.

Starting XI would be:
Cook, Stoneman, Robson, Root, Malan, Stokes, Bairstow, Ali, Woakes, Broad, Anderson.

Would prefer Hales at 5 but Malan has the slot at the moment.
As I said, number 3 is my biggest concern - Robson would be next on my list. But as they are pretty unlikely to consider taking him, I would rather see Vince at 3 than Seeing Ballance bat there!

Biggie Smalls · « **Reply #118 on:** September 25, 2017, 11:19:53 PM »

@ppccopener ..... oz have only 2 batsmen ? No , we have 3 and a half ! Khawaja is good enough on home tracks ( the half ) . English ashes observers gear up to witness the arrival of Peter Handscomb. He will have a big series . You heard it here first .

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #119 on:** September 26, 2017, 08:13:31 AM »

Quote from: Alvaro on September 25, 2017, 09:35:58 PM

And, with the greatest respect @ppccopener anyone picking Mason Crane needs a lie down in a darkened room.

Agree with PPOpener He may not play but England to take Crane for the experience
Now its time for that darkened room.

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