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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #165 on: September 27, 2017, 09:26:56 AM »

I'd go with Cook, Strauss, Trott, KP, Bell, Collingwood, Prior, Swann, Broad, Tremlett, Anderson.

Sorry.

Cook,  Stoneman, Vince, Root, Bairstow, Stokes, Foakes, Moeen, Woakes, Broad, Anderson.

I've never been an advocate of moving YJB up, but they've picked a great keeper who can bat and I'm worried about having Stoneman, Vince and Malan in the top five.

The number three position will determine whethernwe win the Ashes or not.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #166 on: September 27, 2017, 09:29:40 AM »

It's all very well saying the selectors got it wrong,it's a poor squad,etc etc, but the alternatives weren't great either...
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #167 on: September 27, 2017, 09:30:07 AM »

You would have thought Plunkett had a case to be included done nothing wrong experienced one of the fittest  would get  plenty of pace and bounce in oz.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #168 on: September 27, 2017, 09:32:00 AM »

It's all very well saying the selectors got it wrong,it's a poor squad,etc etc, but the alternatives weren't great either...

Yes batting wise probably the best they could come up with.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #169 on: September 27, 2017, 09:33:36 AM »

Cook, Stoneman, Vince, Root, Stokes, Bairstow, Foakes (wk), Moeen, Woakes, Broad, Anderson.
Bairstow is very capable in the field and can always step in to WK if Foakes is having a poor series.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #170 on: September 27, 2017, 09:43:10 AM »

Cook, Stoneman, Vince, Root, Stokes, Bairstow, Foakes (wk), Moeen, Woakes, Broad, Anderson.

I would usually be one for leaving Bairstow at 7, but I agree that we may need to change the order a little!
Still unsure whether Stokes will want to move up to 5 - so Bairstow and Stokes at 5/6 (whichever way round suits them!)
But I still suspect they will want to keep Malan at 5, which means that there will be no place for Foakes, which would be a real shame!
Foakes defo as main keeper. Bairstow has improved but Foakes is an awesome keeper!
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #171 on: September 27, 2017, 09:43:22 AM »

When's the Lions party announced?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #172 on: September 27, 2017, 09:44:50 AM »

as ive previously said i think foakes is a good selction but if we need a secondary keeper/batsman surely it has to be Alex Davies from lancs (playing devils advocate here)
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #173 on: September 27, 2017, 09:46:45 AM »

You would have thought Plunkett had a case to be included done nothing wrong experienced one of the fittest  would get  plenty of pace and bounce in oz.

@Seniorplayer Plunkett would likely be a better pick that Ball (who averages about 114 with the ball!) but his face doesn't seem to fit for some reason.

Looking at the seam options of Anderson, Broad, Ball, Overton, Stokes  & Woakes there's nobody with anything to worry the Aussies. Someone like Plunkett or Wood with a bit of pace would add some variety to the attack. We seem to have picked a barrage of 80 odd MPH bowlers to put it on a spot for the Aussies to feast on! :(
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #174 on: September 27, 2017, 09:55:23 AM »

@Seniorplayer Plunkett would likely be a better pick that Ball (who averages about 114 with the ball!) but his face doesn't seem to fit for some reason.

Looking at the seam options of Anderson, Broad, Ball, Overton, Stokes  & Woakes there's nobody with anything to worry the Aussies. Someone like Plunkett or Wood with a bit of pace would add some variety to the attack. We seem to have picked a barrage of 80 odd MPH bowlers to put it on a spot for the Aussies to feast on! :(
Yep as already written to samey unless the ball nips around for the king of swing to reverse it.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #175 on: September 27, 2017, 09:55:43 AM »

Its a weak squad - with a very weak back up players on offer.

How Balance and Vince are selected is beyond me. Would have been better off sticking with Westley - and what about Burns from Surrey?

Bowling wise, what does Leach have to do to get selected?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #176 on: September 27, 2017, 10:00:51 AM »

It is easy to criticise the squad, but as previously mentioned, the alternatives aren't there either -

Vince & Balance shouldn't be in there, but I couldn't select a 2 or 3 with enough experience and form to make the trip. Hameed is injured, I think I would've put Robson and Samit in instead of those two for a spare opener and a bit of batting experience.

I'm happy with Crane - why not, I don't think Leach operates well under pressure (last Lions tour) and Rashid is a bit of a liability

The seamers are much of a muchness, so I would've had Plunko over Ball - sadly there is no left armer making a case anywhere in the shires, and stop suggesting Wood - his body is not up to an Ashes series.

For me, it's a shaky squad and I would've changed about 4 of them. Pleased for Foakes though.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #177 on: September 27, 2017, 10:01:13 AM »

@Seniorplayer Plunkett would likely be a better pick that Ball (who averages about 114 with the ball!) but his face doesn't seem to fit for some reason.

Looking at the seam options of Anderson, Broad, Ball, Overton, Stokes  & Woakes there's nobody with anything to worry the Aussies. Someone like Plunkett or Wood with a bit of pace would add some variety to the attack. We seem to have picked a barrage of 80 odd MPH bowlers to put it on a spot for the Aussies to feast on! :(

Plunkett and Overton would’ve been the pack up seamers for me. Overton isn’t exactly slow either and can put the ball in the right areas consistently and Plunkett just seems to take wickets wherever he is. Baffles me that we didn’t select him, especially as he’s probably one of the fittest bowlers in the country.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #178 on: September 27, 2017, 10:03:02 AM »

Its a weak squad - with a very weak back up players on offer.

How Balance and Vince are selected is beyond me. Would have been better off sticking with Westley - and what about Burns from Surrey?

Bowling wise, what does Leach have to do to get selected?
Statistically yes, they should have selected Burns but it is a lot easier to score runs on a flat oval pitch than somewhere up north like Durham.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #179 on: September 27, 2017, 10:15:21 AM »

More good news-Stokes fractures finger on right hand- I wonder how he did that?
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