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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #720 on: November 09, 2017, 01:09:44 PM »
Quote from: Seniorplayer on November 09, 2017, 12:38:52 PM
Yes the pitches will bake  and they will have bounce but will they turn has an indiactor England  seamers took 68 wickets out there in the last series not just me but the tv experts seem to agree also wasn't suggesting England play lesser bowlers.
Glad you liked Worcester it's  also a great place if you like English history.
Did you go to Fearnley or Hawk.
Look foreward to that pint.

The reason England's seamer's took those wickets last time was because Swann was bowling a bag of grenades (for a variety of reasons) and retired after 3 tests it was so bad - 7-560 in 3 tests! So there wasn't anyone else to take them.

Warne has said many times that it is bounce and accuracy that got him wickets, with the occasional ball that turns is all you need to show the batsman that you can do it.

I say throw Crane in - it looks like he is bowling well and is used to Aus conditions after playing for NSW.
 
 
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #721 on: November 09, 2017, 02:10:25 PM »
Quote from: Alvaro on November 09, 2017, 09:41:52 AM
Seniorplayer - if only one venue in Australia spins, which one do you mean?

Gabba, where Warne said was his favourite place to bowl
Adelaide, where Swann bowled out Oz in 2010
Or Sydney, just to swallow the truism?

Play your best bowlers from what you've got left, frankly.


Gabba is good for spin only if the spinner uses a lot of overspin to extract extra bounce.
Adelaide in a pink ball day nighter is not the same spin friendly place it is for red ball cricket ( greener pitch , doesnt wear nearly as much by days 3,4,5).
Sydney is beginning to return to its spin friendly former self..... judge the scg pitch on the morning of day 1. Half the time you wouldn't even want/need 2 spinners at the scg anyway .
Picking Crane for anything other than the scg would be madness .
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #722 on: November 09, 2017, 03:21:08 PM »
Quote from: Biggie Smalls on November 09, 2017, 02:10:25 PM

Gabba is good for spin only if the spinner uses a lot of overspin to extract extra bounce.
Adelaide in a pink ball day nighter is not the same spin friendly place it is for red ball cricket ( greener pitch , doesnt wear nearly as much by days 3,4,5).
Sydney is beginning to return to its spin friendly former self..... judge the scg pitch on the morning of day 1. Half the time you wouldn't even want/need 2 spinners at the scg anyway .
Picking Crane for anything other than the scg would be madness .

Crane will have to play at some point i think so why not get him in early.

There is no way Anderson and possibly Broad will be playing every game - especially if we end up chasing leather for a few days.

The 1st and 2nd, and 4th and 5th Tests are also back to back - only 4 days in between each test if they go the distance.

So we have Overton and Curran out there as 4th seamer or back up both on debut - and now possibly another debutante if Ball needs replacing

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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #723 on: November 09, 2017, 03:34:41 PM »
Tom Curran must be laughing at the luck he is having. One day not in the squad then next day having to get a flight over to cover Finn. Then getting off his flight to find out Ball is injured and there is a decent chance he will now start first test.

Out of interest who does everyone predict will be there best batsmen and bowler by the end of the series for your team ?
Im going to go for Stoneman to have a Rogers style ashes and either Woakes or Ali with the ball.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #724 on: November 09, 2017, 03:35:06 PM »
Personally would have Crane in as leggies can get wickets on non turning pitches but think Mo might struggle as not got the variety or accuracy if nothing at all there for him.

Really hope I'm wrong though.

Why won't they pick Plunkett? Is he injured as seems like he would be a good shout in aus with extra bounce.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #725 on: November 09, 2017, 03:55:57 PM »
Plunkett never gets on the trips god knows why maybe he’s a bad tourist or upset someone

Mason crane is getting closer to a test match debut every day
Can this lad hold a bat down the order?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #726 on: November 09, 2017, 03:58:27 PM »
Quote from: roco on November 09, 2017, 03:35:06 PM
Personally would have Crane in as leggies can get wickets on non turning pitches but think Mo might struggle as not got the variety or accuracy if nothing at all there for him.

Really hope I'm wrong though.

Why won't they pick Plunkett? Is he injured as seems like he would be a good shout in aus with extra bounce.

Plunkett is fit and is in Bangladesh playing in T20 with a few other England Odi players.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #727 on: November 09, 2017, 04:25:04 PM »
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #728 on: November 09, 2017, 06:10:02 PM »
Quote from: edge on November 09, 2017, 04:25:04 PM





Who do you think you are kidding .. ...... ?
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #729 on: November 09, 2017, 06:16:02 PM »
Quote from: Biggie Smalls on November 09, 2017, 06:10:02 PM



Who do you think you are kidding .. ...... ?

..... Darren Lehman, if you think we can’t score runs

We are the boys who will play this mighty game

We are the boys who will keep the urn again

Coz who do you think you are kidding Darren Lehman



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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #730 on: November 09, 2017, 07:13:34 PM »
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #731 on: November 09, 2017, 07:59:01 PM »
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #732 on: November 09, 2017, 08:20:12 PM »
Yeah no one get any ideas for the next Southern net it was hard enough against the ball crusher Merlyn  unless we get net sponsorship from Ayrtek 'to test out the lids'
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #733 on: November 09, 2017, 09:52:02 PM »
Id be keen! I loved the merlyn so much I have a net booked on tuesday with one.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #734 on: November 10, 2017, 07:04:16 AM »
Stoneman with another 50 looks like he’s in decent nick
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