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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1815 on: December 06, 2017, 04:25:11 AM »

We'll have him if you guy's don't want him.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1816 on: December 06, 2017, 05:13:54 AM »

*wakes up*
*checks score*
*goes back to sleept*

Disappointed but not surprised it really is the bloody hope that gets you!

After a great day yesterday so frustrating to see the collapse
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1817 on: December 06, 2017, 05:15:50 AM »

We'll have him if you guy's don't want him.

Yeah, they can have a pakage deal if they want to swap.....root for marsh, khawaja, handscomb, ferguson, maddinson , and an old gn scoop I've got laying around somewhere.  :D
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1818 on: December 06, 2017, 05:18:03 AM »

Yes third 5am start for me at least we had a chance this test, albeit a slim one

Bairstow has to move up one whilst stokes is not playing

As I've just read on BBC txt 'yes gilchrist batted 7....but look who he had about him'

Not enough runs thou from the batters when it came down to it
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1819 on: December 06, 2017, 05:23:47 AM »

So oz win by 121 . Much closer than it should/would have been if smith enforced the follow on and we didnt bat like muppets in the 2nd dig . Take nothing away from eng though.....bowled great in the 2nd innings and showed some glimpses of batting fight ( woakes and overton , to a lesser degree root too).
Its scary ( encouraging if you're australian ) just how many wickets starc has taken , and he's not even remotely close to being in his best form .
Cummins looked solid and hazlewood looked sharper than ive ever seen him . 2 tests down and all 3 quicks look untroubled and knjury free .
Lyon is going great too...really looking forward to seeing him bowl at mcg and scg .
But .....we need to learn how to bat , and so do england - overall , both sides have been very poor with the bat .
Anyway , cant talk about whitewashes or anything yet , but safe to say : series over .
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1820 on: December 06, 2017, 05:30:04 AM »

Big disappointment, Australia didn’t let root settle in and that was the key. It’s blatant that  ECB got it wrong with selection
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1821 on: December 06, 2017, 05:45:01 AM »

Ok back to bed then, havnt seen anything got up at 5:30 made a tea and see it’s over. To be fair I did think this may be the case
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1822 on: December 06, 2017, 06:14:50 AM »

Hazelwood and Starc really turned it on today, credit to pat cummins for bowling his guts out for not much reward. And surely now people will start giving lyon the respect he deserves as (arguably) one of if not the best spinner in world cricket at the moment. Scarily for England, Australia still a long way off playing their best.. on a side note, the umpiring was bang average this test.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1823 on: December 06, 2017, 06:45:53 AM »

Hows ya porridge taste this morning lads?  :D
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1824 on: December 06, 2017, 08:14:23 AM »

Well it was a long shot.... we do have a bad habit of losing wickets in clumps and was always going to be a difficult task with tail facing a new ball.

I found the Captains post-match interviews very interesting -

Smith on the follow-on decision -  "Would I do the same again? I'm not sure. It's played on my mind a bit over the last couple of days - have I made a mistake? My rationale was it's really long summer and I don't want to bowl my bowlers into the ground. On another day I might decide to go another way, but we've won the Test match, so it's irrelevant."

Fair play for Smith saying that.

Root on the toss decision - "I don't regret it. You want to give your bowlers the best chance - I fully expect those guys to take 10 wickets. There's a lot of things you can look back on and say you want to do different, but I don't think that's one of them."

It was a shocking decision, yes the bowlers didn't bowl well at the start but i rank that up there as a complete bottle job bowling 1st - i wish he would just be man enough to say he got it wrong.... i am losing a lot of faith in Root the Captain.

There is a lot of difference in wanting to bowl 1st and not wanting the bat 1st.



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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1825 on: December 06, 2017, 08:23:34 AM »

Us losing had nothing to do with the toss and everything to do with being rubbish with bat and ball for the majority of the game.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1826 on: December 06, 2017, 08:27:34 AM »

If the bowlers had bowled well maybe we'd have got them for 250-300, even if we then batted as badly as we did it wouldn't have looked nearly as bad a decision.
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1827 on: December 06, 2017, 08:31:42 AM »

Can't keep scoring sub 300 in either innings and expect to win many Test Matches.

It's the hope that kills you!
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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1828 on: December 06, 2017, 08:37:43 AM »

Would love to know flintoffs, goughs, harmisons,etc thoughts on the current England team and especially that performance

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Re: Ashes 2017-18
« Reply #1829 on: December 06, 2017, 08:45:04 AM »

Can't keep scoring sub 300 in either innings and expect to win many Test Matches.

It's the hope that kills you!

Indeed, if Woakes can keep firing then at least we have 3 bowlers putting pressure on their batsman. Out batters have to start converting starts into tons though.

I still think we need less leftie in the top order, so that we can put pressure on Lyon and stop their quicks getting such a long breather, as for who those RHB are, beats me.
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