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Re: BBL 2017-2018
« Reply #90 on: January 12, 2018, 09:16:46 AM »

KP rolling back the years! Joy to watch
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Re: BBL 2017-2018
« Reply #91 on: January 12, 2018, 09:26:50 AM »

I'll always be grateful for the joy Kev's given me.
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Re: BBL 2017-2018
« Reply #92 on: January 12, 2018, 09:29:33 AM »

He might be a bit of a c*ck, but I bloody love watching him play. Such a shame that it all happened as it did, could've gone down as one of the true greatest - clearly hasn't lost it!
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Re: BBL 2017-2018
« Reply #93 on: January 12, 2018, 09:34:05 AM »

There is a great video on the Barmy Army facebook page of Boycott talking about KP, you have to listen to a bitter Swann calling him a C***T a lot before you get Boycott's excellent review but well worth a watch.

Boycott basically saying that England cricket have been robbed of one of it's greatest talents because nobody at the ECB was strong/brave enough to manage him and make him and his views feel part of the team.
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Re: BBL 2017-2018
« Reply #94 on: January 12, 2018, 09:50:51 AM »

Boycott basically saying that England cricket have been robbed of one of it's greatest talents because nobody at the ECB was strong/brave enough to manage him and make him and his views feel part of the team.

Literally could not agree more. If he was an Aussie he'd have broken all kinds of records by now.
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Re: BBL 2017-2018
« Reply #95 on: January 12, 2018, 09:53:42 AM »

Could he be managed? a monumental ego as well as a monumental talent, why should a captain and coach continually have to pussy-foot around him and pander to his whims?

Anecdotally he's been disliked at every club he's played at - he's good, but he's not Bradman. Bravo to England for standing up to self-centred pr*cks I say!

(granted I am sitting on the fence a little here  :D)
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Re: BBL 2017-2018
« Reply #96 on: January 12, 2018, 10:49:47 AM »

Yep @DorsetDan  - but how many of the other supposed big egos have fallen out with many teammates in many different sides. How many have attempted to influence the sacking of their coach and how many have attempted to subvert their own captain by colluding with the opposition?

I'm not saying he's the only ego, but he seems to have been the most disruptive I can remember with little respect for anyone but himself - I just don't see why management and coaches should have to put up with it to such a degree - a tolerance for some prima-donna behaviour yes, but ultimately you've got to knuckle down and get on with it for team and for country.
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Re: BBL 2017-2018
« Reply #97 on: January 12, 2018, 10:53:20 AM »

Yep @DorsetDan  - but how many of the other supposed big egos have fallen out with many teammates in many different sides. How many have attempted to influence the sacking of their coach and how many have attempted to subvert their own captain by colluding with the opposition?

I'm not saying he's the only ego, but he seems to have been the most disruptive I can remember with little respect for anyone but himself - I just don't see why management and coaches should have to put up with it to such a degree - a tolerance for some prima-donna behaviour yes, but ultimately you've got to knuckle down and get on with it for team and for country.

Sounds like many of the players in the sides I play against.
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Re: BBL 2017-2018
« Reply #98 on: January 12, 2018, 11:08:57 AM »

I have always loved the profile used by KP...seems perfect for a tall guy and dont look too heavy. Anybody has more insights into KP's bat profile?
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Re: BBL 2017-2018
« Reply #99 on: January 12, 2018, 11:12:34 AM »

Almost a chicken and egg scenario. Which came first - poor management or poor behaviour?

One thing is for certain - England have never replaced him in the middle order. I would still back him to get in the Test team now based on ability - and he has missed out on what should have been a fruitful last few years of his Test career.

The best batsman I have seen in an England shirt without doubt.

From my point of view as a captain at amateur level you do have to put up with attitudes and egos (usually unwarranted) from players to get your best team on the field but there comes a point when enough is enough.
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Re: BBL 2017-2018
« Reply #100 on: January 12, 2018, 11:14:55 AM »

What a shot that was from Bravo!!

102m over cover point.
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Re: BBL 2017-2018
« Reply #101 on: January 12, 2018, 11:43:27 AM »

Swann's hatred might be stemmed from KP getting picked in the IPL whilst swann went unsold. How things change now - england management are happy for players to miss england matches (e.g. Morgan) and go off to the IPL. Strauss had a very different opinion when he was captain about it all.
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Re: BBL 2017-2018
« Reply #102 on: January 15, 2018, 10:02:05 AM »

What has happened to Tymal Mills?
He went from doing well in T20Is, to getting pumped round every game in the BBL
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Re: BBL 2017-2018
« Reply #103 on: January 15, 2018, 10:18:48 AM »

I reckon he has been absolutely woeful.
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Re: BBL 2017-2018
« Reply #104 on: January 15, 2018, 10:40:27 AM »

What has happened to Tymal Mills?
He went from doing well in T20Is, to getting pumped round every game in the BBL

People have seen his slower balls enough and figured him out, and Aussie pitches maybe don't suit him so much?
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