Topic: Hitman Assassin (Read 15088 times)

Tom · « **Reply #45 on:** January 18, 2018, 11:05:36 PM »

Quote from: BIGGIE on January 18, 2018, 11:02:33 PM

I do have a question though, allot of people here have spoken about the 'grade' which as far as my understanding goes is specific to how it looks. Does any manufacturer put a price on how a bat 'picks up' or 'pings'?

Pick-up is pretty much solely down to how a bat is shaped, combined with the weight of the handle. You can make any bat pick up well, just shift the weight up towards the handle.

In respect to ping. Some manufacturers claim to grade on performance, but it's incredibly unscientific at best. And you still generally see prettier bats towards the higher price brackets. Very few people would be willing to spend big money on a bat which looks exactly the same as a bat from another manufacturer, but at a quarter of the price.

Tom · « **Reply #46 on:** January 18, 2018, 11:08:47 PM »

Quote from: Straight Bat Shot on January 18, 2018, 10:55:57 PM

About that... where is the for sale section on this forum?
Trying to sell a Blankbat & a top of the range salix before the English season starts

It's limited to those who have more than 150 posts.

BIGGIE · « **Reply #47 on:** January 18, 2018, 11:32:57 PM »

Tom - is that specific to buy or just selling?

KW9221 · « **Reply #48 on:** January 18, 2018, 11:49:39 PM »

Quote from: BIGGIE on January 18, 2018, 11:32:57 PM

Tom - is that specific to buy or just selling?

You can buy and sell there. You need 150 �quality� posts.

GoldenArm · « **Reply #49 on:** January 18, 2018, 11:56:45 PM »

It�s been a while since I�ve posted but this thread really made me angry. To charge that much for that bat is beyond a joke. I really don�t want to make you feel bad about this but @BIGGIE you should be asking for your money back and learn something from this experience. For all the flaws of grading solely on looks at least that means you can delve into lower grades and find an ugly duckling that when treated with the proper skill by a bat maker can be as good as a much higher grade bat (although perhaps won�t come into its best quite so quickly or draw so many ah�s and ooh�s of appreciation). But for this guy to use the grading on performance line to say here�s a grade 5 bat but it goes like stink so it�s �400 beggars belief. If you wanted a bat that didn�t have to look great and would last a good long time (unlike a lot of super expensive low density grainy bats) you could have found a great deal of them for a lot lot less.

KW9221 · « **Reply #50 on:** January 19, 2018, 12:21:26 AM »

@GoldenArm last couple of years most of us paid 600-700 on xp80 1500 or 50+. They didn�t look great either but they all performed quite well. I am not comparing hitman with Gray Nicolls at all but if the buyer is satisfied with the performance of his bat then that�s it.

raza147 · « **Reply #51 on:** January 19, 2018, 12:43:06 AM »

im glad that your happy with the performamce of the bat, that is all that matters at the end of the day, look forward to hearing how you get on with it throughout the season

BIGGIE · « **Reply #52 on:** January 19, 2018, 12:45:00 AM »

Quote from: GoldenArm on January 18, 2018, 11:56:45 PM

It�s been a while since I�ve posted but this thread really made me angry. To charge that much for that bat is beyond a joke. I really don�t want to make you feel bad about this but @BIGGIE you should be asking for your money back and learn something from this experience. For all the flaws of grading solely on looks at least that means you can delve into lower grades and find an ugly duckling that when treated with the proper skill by a bat maker can be as good as a much higher grade bat (although perhaps won�t come into its best quite so quickly or draw so many ah�s and ooh�s of appreciation). But for this guy to use the grading on performance line to say here�s a grade 5 bat but it goes like stink so it�s �400 beggars belief. If you wanted a bat that didn�t have to look great and would last a good long time (unlike a lot of super expensive low density grainy bats) you could have found a great deal of them for a lot lot less.

i have no intention of asking for money back. i saw the blade before balance of purchase was paid for so its on me.

to me the looks arnt a priority, so far (which isnt much of a test) the performance justifies the purchase, if the performance drops dramatically ill cut my losses and see what else is out there

GoldenArm · « **Reply #53 on:** January 19, 2018, 12:53:37 AM »

Quote from: KW9221 on January 19, 2018, 12:21:26 AM

@GoldenArm last couple of years most of us paid 600-700 on xp80 1500 or 50+. They didn�t look great either but they all performed quite well. I am not comparing hitman with Gray Nicolls at all but if the buyer is satisfied with the performance of his bat then that�s it.

I�m fairly sure those xp�s And 50+ didn�t look like they�d been pulled off an old shed and stickered up by Ray Charles though. You were paying not for looks but for size/density so it�s just a different side of the same coin. This bat doesn�t have either of those things going for it unfortunately. I�m saying quite firmly he really shouldn�t be happy, not matter how much it stings to admit it, he should be absolutely hopping mad. We�ve all been there, I bought a total plank off eBay in the early days. Not even sure it was made of willow 😂. Sent it back to the bloke and threatened to report him for selling fake kooks. Did get my money back and went straight out and got a lovely grade 2 Redback Allegiance for �150. Still one of the best bats I�ve ever owned. 🚀

sgcricket · « **Reply #54 on:** January 19, 2018, 03:09:49 AM »

Quote from: Tom on January 18, 2018, 10:52:34 PM

The cost price for a bat this grade is closer to around GBP25.00 (before shipping), from my experience.

I'm glad the bat performs, and I hope it holds up. But I really can't sit by and see manufacturers charging GBP450 for what is an incredibly low-grade piece of willow.

And you are fine if UK brands charge 500 GBP for their top level bats? And more than 100 GBP for gloves and pads made in the subcontinent?

Yorkershire · « **Reply #55 on:** January 19, 2018, 03:12:42 AM »

I don't know BIGGIE, so this isn't an attack on him or anyone else. Sometimes when we have made a mistake we don't like to own up to it. I think most people on here are trying to reach out to BIGGIE and help him, maybe they aren't being very constructive.

We have all made mistakes and been embarrassed by it. I think people should vent their anger at Hitman bats!

You would have gotten a better bat direct by contacting a few of the Pakistani companies (if that's where they get their bats from). I've done that and then had them adjusted by a local bat maker if I havent been quite happy by the pickup, and its still been better value for money.

We all just don't like fellow forum members being ripped off mate! Could have got a great bat from many forum sponsors for way less.

Hope it all works out, chin up!

Yorkershire · « **Reply #56 on:** January 19, 2018, 03:16:07 AM »

Quote from: sgcricket on January 19, 2018, 03:09:49 AM

And you are fine if UK brands charge 500 GBP for their top level bats? And more than 100 GBP for gloves and pads made in the subcontinent?

From what I have seen. Very few people on this forum will spend �500.00 on a bat. I cant bring myself to pay more than �250.00 and that is for bats where i get choose the willow and it's local to me.

skip1973 · « **Reply #57 on:** January 19, 2018, 06:55:01 AM »

I'm sorry but how can anyone justify that price for a grade 3 bat? I'm not saying ugly bats can't be great bats, I have a GN now, light, full and ugly, it's a great stick BUT it cost about $300 au. This guy i assume doesn't charge GST, no retail space or staff to pay, non of the dreaded sponsorship $$ built into the prices, no warranty or support. It really is a joke, how can they charge up to $1500 with none of these costs genuine retailers face?

ogroupleader · « **Reply #58 on:** January 19, 2018, 07:24:16 AM »

I know a guy who bought an Affinity Persona with 4 grains. Pretty sure he still rates it as one of the best bats he has ever owned. Like Biggie I couldn't give a toss about looks. All I care about is how the bat plays. If a manufacturer/brand can guarantee performance for a price I'm keen (hence the large collection of SPS bats). That said, however, I'll never buy a Hitman because he sounds like a flog.

Neon Cricket · « **Reply #59 on:** January 19, 2018, 08:01:27 AM »

Quote from: sgcricket on January 19, 2018, 03:09:49 AM

And you are fine if UK brands charge 500 GBP for their top level bats? And more than 100 GBP for gloves and pads made in the subcontinent?

But top level bats made in the UK cost considerably more than imported "grade 3" bats so it's a different context, although I do agree that some prices have become simply ridiculous lately.

As for softs, the introduction of GST in India has made a fair difference - personally I'm not overly comfortable charging �69.99 for gloves and �89.99 for pads, but if I didn't then I wouldn't exist this time next year (the quality of the product is more than comparable with brands charging over �200 for a set, so I like to think I'm still offering a fair price at under �160 in comparison with the rest of the market).

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