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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #120 on: March 08, 2018, 10:36:37 AM »

What I'm trying to gather is Warner wanted fisticuffs with de Kock, when the latter had a bat in his close proximity?

As for Warner's wife, she's dog rough. Warner being the dog mouth. They suit each other

Yeah, that's your opinion but its still his wife. So of course he's not going to stand for somebody talking trash about her.
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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #121 on: March 08, 2018, 01:03:09 PM »

Warner breaks silence on what was said......... i wonder if anyone from SA is going to do the same...

It's going to kick off in the 2nd Test!!

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/david-warner-breaks-silence-quinton-de-kock-vile-disgusting-sledge-stairwell-incident-durban-cctv/2018-03-08
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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #122 on: March 08, 2018, 03:23:41 PM »


As for Warner's wife, she's dog rough. Warner being the dog mouth. They suit each other

Haha best thing you've ever come up with Ger! Personally I think she's quite tasty but as the lyricist and poet Andre Young once remarked - you cannot make a ho a housewife

I like to think that although this Warner breakdown may have occurred in South Africa, it was a culmination of 5 Test Matches in front of the Barmy Army that has pushed him to tipping point. Maybe if the guy was less of a (No Swearing Please) he wouldn't cop so much
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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #123 on: March 08, 2018, 05:45:01 PM »

So..

Calling a player names or commenting about him isn’t deemed personal but insulting someone who isn’t there is?!?! Bizarre morals
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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #124 on: March 08, 2018, 06:51:25 PM »

So..

Calling a player names or commenting about him isn’t deemed personal but insulting someone who isn’t there is?!?! Bizarre morals

Apparently warner was mouthing off about qdk sister too!

Sisters are ok to sledge about but not wives he is an effing moron!
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« Reply #125 on: March 08, 2018, 06:58:33 PM »

To marry somebody who has such a public history means you're either very strong or you're not the brightest. Looks like the latter is true for both Mr and Mrs Warner.
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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #126 on: March 08, 2018, 07:12:31 PM »

Australia have control of 'the line', and it moves where they wish, how do the rest of the world not understand? (a clue - if you're not from Australia you're on the wrong side of it)

Not a terribly smart interview to give, now every cricket side in the world knows exactly what to say to make Warner completely lose his (No Swearing Please)! Couple of quick chirps from short leg asking Davey what Sonny Bill tastes like and suddenly Australia need a new opener/vc for the rest of the series. Wonder how the next test will go...
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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #127 on: March 08, 2018, 07:49:40 PM »

Apparently warner was mouthing off about qdk sister too!

Sisters are ok to sledge about but not wives he is an effing moron!

Haha..

True Alex
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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #128 on: March 08, 2018, 08:28:15 PM »

Warner and the rest of the Aussies crossed the line in the ashes,I've already posted what was said, now it goes too far again and Warner goes to the press.

England said nothing during the ashes only what is said on the field stays there.

I'm afraid thou, as others have said, this is a race to the bottom....with the Aussie management coming out in support of this clown someone somewhere has to take a stand .me personally I would had far more power to the umpires in the short term to try to address the problem.

It really is a blight on the game and I'm not talking about not playing hard competitive cricket, quite a few of us do, or have done in my case.

We see it in the ameteur game and it's definitely getting worse.
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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #129 on: March 08, 2018, 10:12:33 PM »

Warner and the rest of the Aussies crossed the line in the ashes,I've already posted what was said, now it goes too far again and Warner goes to the press.

England said nothing during the ashes only what is said on the field stays there.

I'm afraid thou, as others have said, this is a race to the bottom....with the Aussie management coming out in support of this clown someone somewhere has to take a stand .me personally I would had far more power to the umpires in the short term to try to address the problem.

It really is a blight on the game and I'm not talking about not playing hard competitive cricket, quite a few of us do, or have done in my case.

We see it in the ameteur game and it's definitely getting worse.

Umpires don’t have the bottle to call it out

Also, why is sledging regarded as being hard and competitive ?? Isn’t playing hard and competitive a inner trait ?? Not who goes and shouts the most ?
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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #130 on: March 08, 2018, 10:43:35 PM »

Umpires don't really have the power now to call it out quite right, they normally have a word with the captain if it's getting out of hand.

I think myself cricket is getting more like football, the money is greater,the stakes are higher and that's like a booster for some of the behaviour we see today.

Remember the Clarke comment about breaking Andersons arm? We know both sides give it out especially Anderson, but that was over the line.

In our league cricket the behaviour in Middlesex is now so bad red cards have been introduced, if a players gets one, the captain automatically gets one too, so, say 3 match ban for the offender, same for the captain-this Is fairly new in our league.

And yes, the very best players in my time watching test cricket, didn't say much...Warne and Waugh and Anderson the exception..Most of the West Indies I watched as a kid said bugger all, Lara didn't say much,Tendulkar even less.

I don't think myself it can or will be stamped out totally, but something has to be done for the long term game I totally agree with you.

If a Captain was sent off in a test match for example, at say 1pm so the rest of the day(fielding) you played with 10...would the problem of excessive personal sledging by phased out?

It's an idea....it might not work. Those that run the game need to come up with something most of us would agree.

Really....the game is being harmed and the ameteur game will pay the price as well.


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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #131 on: March 08, 2018, 10:48:58 PM »

I’d say that law 42 gives them all the power they need

42.2 Level 1 offences and action by umpires

42.2.1 Any of the following actions by a player shall constitute a Level 1 offence:

- wilfully mistreating any part of the cricket ground, equipment or implements used in the match

- showing dissent at an umpire’s decision by word or action

- using language that, in the circumstances, is obscene, offensive or insulting

- making an obscene gesture

- appealing excessively


Given a umpire can use the ‘in my opinion’.. he could literally shut all verbals down . Especially as you could argue that commenting on someone’s personality, body etc is actually an insult... etc etc
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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #132 on: March 09, 2018, 08:24:32 AM »

I’d say that law 42 gives them all the power they need

42.2 Level 1 offences and action by umpires

42.2.1 Any of the following actions by a player shall constitute a Level 1 offence:

- wilfully mistreating any part of the cricket ground, equipment or implements used in the match

- showing dissent at an umpire’s decision by word or action

- using language that, in the circumstances, is obscene, offensive or insulting

- making an obscene gesture

- appealing excessively


Given a umpire can use the ‘in my opinion’.. he could literally shut all verbals down . Especially as you could argue that commenting on someone’s personality, body etc is actually an insult... etc etc

Good point, but this needs to be recognised and acknowledged by all concerned. In order for the umpires, (particularly at amateur level), to be confident to uphold this element of the Law, they must be seen to be backed by the various boards/ leagues etc very clearly. All umpires should be stepping in (similar threshold - not easy to define) and a very clear statement issued to all players before a series/ season that this is to be the case.
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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #133 on: March 09, 2018, 08:42:46 AM »

Morne Morkel dropped for Lungi Ngidi. With Steyn rumoured to be returning for the third Test, Philander might be on borrowed time
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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #134 on: March 09, 2018, 09:24:12 AM »

Morne Morkel dropped for Lungi Ngidi. With Steyn rumoured to be returning for the third Test, Philander might be on borrowed time
The selectors and cricket board will be on borrowed time if they dropped Philander!!!
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