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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #300 on: March 24, 2018, 02:43:36 PM »

Finally Australia doing what ever other test team are doing.... About time

So you are defending blatent cheating by stating that other people do it?
I can't see that ridiculous defence working!!!! Imagine....well Your Honour, I only burgled the house because it had been burgled 4 times before!!
So I thought that because others were doing it, I would have a go!!

And if you are actually saying "About time" then that is REALLY worrying!
So you should be condoning this...it is cheating. Others may have done this and we should frown about it and be embassassed about it!
NOT SAY "WELL DONE!"
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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #301 on: March 24, 2018, 02:44:57 PM »

Warne quoted on cricinfo saying there is no way he would of acted alone....if what we see is true

How many Aussies can you get in the match referees room?  :)
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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #302 on: March 24, 2018, 03:04:36 PM »

Another class 50 from AB. Again looks likes more solid every innings
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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #303 on: March 24, 2018, 03:31:11 PM »

The Australians cheated and still couldn't find away to dislodge the brilliant de Villiers. Really hope he stays around until he reaches 10k runs
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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #304 on: March 24, 2018, 03:32:56 PM »

Ahhh Australia. Offended by everything, ashamed of nothing.
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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #305 on: March 24, 2018, 03:35:29 PM »

Anyone else looking forward to bancroft’s interview? His ashes one was pretty amusing.

Send Johnny over to headbutt him as punishment
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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #306 on: March 24, 2018, 03:36:46 PM »

There definitely some Aussie back room staff guy in the local shop trying to find something yellow and small that they can say Bancroft had for a believable reason?


“It’s a deodorising patch, Bancroft has a smelly bell end and has to change it often”..........
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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #307 on: March 24, 2018, 03:41:51 PM »

Pretty clear Bancroft was just a pawn. Lehman, Smith, Warner should be penalized more as this seemed to be team plan... esp given how Lehman told 12th man to go tell bancfroft to hide the sandpaper
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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #308 on: March 24, 2018, 04:35:37 PM »

This press conference...
Smith admits leadership group knew about it... then claims it won't happen again and that he'll be stepping down. Bancroft says it was yellow tape with dirt from the wicket- basically sandpaper then...

Lehman has to go, Smith has to step down.
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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #309 on: March 24, 2018, 04:37:00 PM »

With Smith and Bancroft admitting to ball tampering there has to be some sort of ban for both of them.
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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #310 on: March 24, 2018, 04:43:24 PM »

Lehmann definitely involved



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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #311 on: March 24, 2018, 05:17:05 PM »

Yep they have admitted it and it's also kicking off on Twitter between Michael I love myself Vaughan and Candice Warner over some on field abuse, banter the Aussies call it, her hubby received.

Fair to say it's an explosive news day.

Bancroft is clearly a mule caught out, Smith and Lehman absolutely should be sacked off.

Don't know if that Sutherland bloke is still in change of the ACB but he should take the tough call and start firing people.

My guess is everyone is involved but those at the top carry the can is how it should be.

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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #312 on: March 24, 2018, 05:20:48 PM »

Ex pro’s got it spot on about abuse they’ve faced in Australia. All of a sudden the Aussies get some back and now they’re crying about it

Hussain’s views at the end of the play was spot on re: australia
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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #313 on: March 24, 2018, 05:42:31 PM »

I made this very point about the Aussie double standards during the Ashes. There is a fine line between ignorance and idiocy
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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #314 on: March 24, 2018, 05:58:30 PM »

Gonna post a bit of stuff on this because quite frankly it really p*sses me off to see it happen at the top of the game.

Some excerpts from the news conference with only Cameron Bancroft and Steve Smith present in front of the journos.

First off, some clear soundbites given to both of them by their media relations team in the limited time from end of play to conference.

Deeply regrettable (x3)
Won't happen again (x2)
Incredibly sorry
Not proud of (x4)
Learn from/Come back strong from (x3)
It didn't work, the umpires didn't obviously change the ball (x2)

The last one, really annoys me.  Wtf does it matter if it worked or not?

Now some individual quotes from both in response to questions from the journos.

CB:  "On myself I saw an opportunity to use some [sticky] tape...get some granules from the rough patches on the wicket...and try to change the ball condition"
SS: "The leadership group knew about it.  We spoke about it over lunch."
SS: "It's not what the Australian cricket team's about."
Q: "Would you regret it if you hadn't been caught?"  SS:"I think deep down I would." "If we weren't caught, I'd feel incredibly bad about it."
CB:"I was in the wrong place at the wrong time"
CB:"[No, I didn't feel coerced to do it]I was in the vicinity of the area when the leadership group were discussing it"
SS: "I won't be considering stepping down, I still think I'm the right person for the job"

So, it's murky about how it was arranged.  Did the "management group" who SS wouldn't name but highly likely to include poor little Davey Warner, ask CB to do it?  Or did CB volunteer?  One of the journos suggested that it was established practice in the Aussie team to get the newer, younger players to do certain things.  Nice culture.

"It's not what the Australian cricket team's about" - But it 100% is.  One of the players did it, with approval from the team's leadership group.

SS, who feels he's the right guy to carry on the captaincy, says he regrets it deep down.  Does this mean not deep down he'd be ok with it?  And he would only feel "incredibly bad" if they hadn't got caught.  As opposed to what I would hope for  from a Captain - It would be unacceptable, and I would notify the appropriate authorities asap.

Overall, as I've said, this really annoys me.  I know that other teams have tried various methods some more bizarre, some more brazen.  So the Aussies aren't on their own.  However, sometimes, an example has to be made for the overall good of the game and I think it's the time.

What would I do?

Ban the Aussie team for a year from International matches.  I read recently that the Associate teams have almost no matches now that the WCQ is over which will affect their improving performances greatly, and slow up any momentum in growing the game worldwide. So they can step in.
Smith gets permanent ban from Captaincy all forms, Bancroft a 2 year ban from International matches all forms.

If the punishment is not severe (demerit points, match fee fines etc),  what's to stop Aussies or the other teams from doing it again.

Rant over.

« Last Edit: March 24, 2018, 06:05:13 PM by stamper »
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