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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #75 on: March 05, 2018, 10:34:17 AM »

Actually no, it's Faf walking out with a towel on
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« Reply #76 on: March 05, 2018, 11:39:38 AM »

Warner doesnt have too much between the ears, but being the way he is, i'd say he is happy to cop as much as he serves out and De Kock must have said something to set him off like that. Not any good pretending any of us know what has gone on, so best put your pitchforks and torches away for now.

 As for embarrassment to the sport, well It's not like the he is on cctv footage beating someone senseless in public..not that a professional athlete would ever do that in this day and age..

As for the cricket, some great fight from the saffas in their second innings, but this Australian line up looks to be a bit beyond them, genuine concerns for them when a few of the underperforming big boys of that side decide to call ot a day, which on current form seems sooner rather than later.

Think you are forgetting Warner punched joe root in a night club but forgetting that and let’s say de kock said something about his wife....

Well Jonny Bairstow did not retaliate on England duty when Warner and the rest of this despicable Australian team sledged him about his dads suicide

It was that that upset the England team on the recent tour



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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #77 on: March 05, 2018, 11:40:54 AM »

Was that Bairstow thing actually proven? I'm all for giving the Aussies grief but that just seemed to come out of nowhere.
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« Reply #78 on: March 05, 2018, 11:49:11 AM »

Well Jonny Bairstow did not retaliate on England duty when Warner and the rest of this despicable Australian team sledged him about his dads suicide

It was that that upset the England team on the recent tour

I really hope that wasn't true! If it was then they would deserve an absolute ban from humanity!
I really can't imagine that any professional sportsman could be capable of something like that so I think we need to dismiss that unless proven.
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« Reply #79 on: March 05, 2018, 12:45:31 PM »

He would have been on CCTV trying to punch the hell out of at least one saffa had a few of his teammates not forceabably held him back and bundled him into the changing rooms! So open your eyes!

Well im glad you can see into alernate futures, any lotto numbers? There's a huge difference between verbal and physical, you can't just assume warner would have hit him.

Throughout the footage De Kock is completely non-confrontational, Warner is screaming at him and having to be restrained. No doubt things have probably been said before Warner lost his rag, but your point is? That didn't wash as an excuse in primary school, it shouldn't in adult life either. Also doubt Aiden Markram was firing shots before Warner started yelling obscenities at him during play, or AB before Lyon started throwing the ball at him.

No way defend the Lyon act, that was senseless and pretty out of character, im sure he will cop it on the chin and not do anything of the sort again. My point was that we will have to wait and see why warner was so angry.

Think you are forgetting Warner punched joe root in a night club but forgetting that and let’s say de kock said something about his wife....

Well Jonny Bairstow did not retaliate on England duty when Warner and the rest of this despicable Australian team sledged him about his dads suicide

It was that that upset the England team on the recent tour


Haven't forgotten the warner incident at all, a drunken shirt front is however quite different than beating a defenceless person down in the street.

Where is the credible proof that any of this Bairstow sledging ever happened? I pray that nothing of the sort was said, and i'd trust that players would have enough training and understanding in socially relevant and particularly sensitive issues such as that. I dont buy for a second that something like that could be swept under the rug.

Not for one second have i said warner is a smart person or a good person, just that there would have to be a reason why he blew up and i'd like to know what it is before i judge him on this particular incident. His verbals were ugly and i certainly dont agree or condone them, but who hasnt done or said something in the midst of emotion and an adrenaline rush that wouldn't look silly if replayed time and time again?

Warner is an idiot, but he helps put bums on seats, and there is no test cricket without bums on seats.
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« Reply #80 on: March 05, 2018, 01:15:54 PM »

Warner is an idiot, but he helps put bums on seats, and there is no test cricket without bums on seats.

There’s been no bums on seats during this test even with warner involved!
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« Reply #82 on: March 05, 2018, 01:36:40 PM »

Anyone commenting on this thread (the Warner/QDK incident) has to read the below link..... has comments from both Smith and Du Plessis on what actually happened, Plus Graeme Smith about hearing stuff through the stump mic when commentating!

Apparently stuff getting very personal on both sides and QDK said something about Warner's wife (according to Smith) but only in retaliation to a lot of abuse beforehand etc..

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/steve-smith-personal-sledging-comments-australia-south-africa-first-test-warner-de-kock-du-plessis/2018-03-05

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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #83 on: March 05, 2018, 06:04:10 PM »

Think you are forgetting Warner punched joe root in a night club but forgetting that and let’s say de kock said something about his wife....

Well Jonny Bairstow did not retaliate on England duty when Warner and the rest of this despicable Australian team sledged him about his dads suicide

It was that that upset the England team on the recent tour

If that’s true a long ban should happen. Sadly given the verbals around in the game now it probably is true. People literally can’t comtrol themselves


All this yet again should call into focus the need to ban sledging. Simply no need for it.. be professional ffs

It’s obvious now that no one can control themselves so just ban it totally and turn up the stump mics to catch anything said
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« Reply #84 on: March 05, 2018, 07:12:01 PM »

If that’s true a long ban should happen. Sadly given the verbals around in the game now it probably is true. People literally can’t comtrol themselves


All this yet again should call into focus the need to ban sledging. Simply no need for it.. be professional ffs

It’s obvious now that no one can control themselves so just ban it totally and turn up the stump mics to catch anything said

Turn the stump mics up and allow you to press the red button to add it to your commentary would love to hear it... similar to when they turned up BMac’s mic for an over in the BBL that insight into the game made you appreciate the pro game so, so much more.
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« Reply #85 on: March 05, 2018, 07:23:16 PM »

Turning the stump mics up would certainly enlighten us to what the Aussies deem as acceptable verbals and would definitely be entertaining. The stairwell video has certainly taken the attention away from the actual cricket.

As a South African cricket supporter, Markram's batting display was very encouraging. He got into a tangle at times with the short ball but he is a bright prospect. De Bruyn also showed glimpses of what he produced this season in some domestic games. Maharaj continues to impress. Big Vern, despite all his critics still makes a contribution with the ball. De Kock getting into the runs is great. But with all that said, it all hasn't come together yet, and against the Aussies we will continue to struggle.

Starc bowled superbly to cause the collapses and Smith looks like he is about to get a big score every time he is at the crease. Let's hope the series will be competitive.
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« Reply #86 on: March 05, 2018, 09:26:47 PM »

Turning the stump mics up would certainly enlighten us to what the Aussies deem as acceptable verbals and would definitely be entertaining. The stairwell video has certainly taken the attention away from the actual cricket.

As a South African cricket supporter, Markram's batting display was very encouraging. He got into a tangle at times with the short ball but he is a bright prospect. De Bruyn also showed glimpses of what he produced this season in some domestic games. Maharaj continues to impress. Big Vern, despite all his critics still makes a contribution with the ball. De Kock getting into the runs is great. But with all that said, it all hasn't come together yet, and against the Aussies we will continue to struggle.

Starc bowled superbly to cause the collapses and Smith looks like he is about to get a big score every time he is at the crease. Let's hope the series will be competitive.

Have to hand it to SA they showed some real fight! Markram looks extremely composed, and youve certainly found a good one in maharaj. I think the difference between the two sides lies in the relentless aussie bowling attack who just dont stop coming, mitch marsh probably being the only bowler there who doesnt look like taking a bag full every time he bowls. But from the looks of this test, we are in for a marvelous series.
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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #87 on: March 06, 2018, 09:54:35 AM »


Haven't forgotten the warner incident at all, a drunken shirt front is however quite different than beating a defenceless person down in the street.
I know Oz is generally a bit rougher round the edges than Europe, but is a couple of blokes swinging a wine bottle at people really considered a defenceless target?
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Re: Sa vs aus
« Reply #88 on: March 06, 2018, 10:08:54 AM »

I know Oz is generally a bit tougher round the edges than Europe, but is a couple of blokes swinging a wine bottle at people really considered a defenceless target?

Certainly not, but when he was on the ground unconcious I would consider him defenceless and had Stokes stopped there I doubt it would have been the story it has been, and having just returned from a few months in Europe, I'm not sure i'd agree with you on that first point either :D but thata a discussion for another time and place
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« Reply #89 on: March 06, 2018, 10:20:44 AM »

Certainly not, but when he was on the ground unconcious I would consider him defenceless and had Stokes stopped there I doubt it would have been the story it has been, and having just returned from a few months in Europe, I'm not sure i'd agree with you on that first point either :D but thata a discussion for another time and place

I think you need to watch the video again... Hales was the one kicking the bloke on the ground with severity.
 
Stokes kept hitting the bloke when he was stood up..

Fighting (unlicenced) is not required by any human being against another human or animal however IMO if you instigate anything that is breaking the law or is derogatory/demeaning towards a human/animal then you deserve what you get... If not then that's how bullies and corrupt people start to be the norm in society.

The saying " reap what you sow" is quite apt...
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