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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #360 on: March 30, 2018, 07:22:12 AM »

You’d imagine Cooks goal is one last Ashes.
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« Reply #361 on: March 30, 2018, 07:41:55 AM »

If he’s had a poor record in nz, why do they play him??
I don’t understand this mentality, maybe I’m too critical?

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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #362 on: March 30, 2018, 07:47:59 AM »

You’d imagine Cooks goal is one last Ashes.
I'd imagine at the moment it's double figures!!!!
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #363 on: March 30, 2018, 08:04:10 AM »

What’s his avg over the last two years?

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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #364 on: March 30, 2018, 08:24:31 AM »

See, told you e was wasted at seven...
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #365 on: March 30, 2018, 08:24:41 AM »

Cook got a double hundred in the last test series. we do not have many players who can score that amount of runs in one innings.

I saw his wicket today it looked bad for sure. He is one of those players not blessed with natural talent like KP or bell, he ismuch more like Gooch his mentor who did it thru sheer hard work and dedication.

I think myself he may retire after this series, I hope not I think he needs some technical advice again. He seems to look more at home in test matches here. We have a packed summer of cricket this year.

and there is the question who mig be better? Hameed could come in I suppose but not at in place of Cook surely. Does vince really still deserve to be picked?
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #366 on: March 30, 2018, 08:26:03 AM »

Commentators live said “Cook looks like he’s beeen coached by Gary balance”

Says a lot.


I went to bed when Vince got out, seems an up and down night for the English fans.

Is wood really that bad at batting broad gets in before him??
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #367 on: March 30, 2018, 08:36:34 AM »

Cook got a double hundred in the last test series. we do not have many players who can score that amount of runs in one innings.

I saw his wicket today it looked bad for sure. He is one of those players not blessed with natural talent like KP or bell, he ismuch more like Gooch his mentor who did it thru sheer hard work and dedication.

I think myself he may retire after this series, I hope not I think he needs some technical advice again. He seems to look more at home in test matches here. We have a packed summer of cricket this year.

and there is the question who mig be better? Hameed could come in I suppose but not at in place of Cook surely. Does vince really still deserve to be picked?
A double hundred is irrelevant if either side of that one innings you are a walking wicket. We need consistency not the odd flash in the pan innings. Cook is hopeless against left arm fast bowling and after Boult's done it's Amir's turn...
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #368 on: March 30, 2018, 08:41:51 AM »

A double hundred is irrelevant if either side of that one innings you are a walking wicket. We need consistency not the odd flash in the pan innings. Cook is hopeless against left arm fast bowling and after Boult's done it's Amir's turn...
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The cheat has said he’s going to give up, sorry ‘manage his workload’ .. so might not play.. lots of 2020 for him to spot fix remember
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #369 on: March 30, 2018, 08:42:20 AM »

Can't believe they've dropped Woakes before they even gave him a chance with the new ball, this is ridiculous.
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woakes  a test match failure 2016/17 on the sub continent in Australia and 0 for 126 in the first Test may have something to do with the decision or it maybe that his last few wickets have costing sixty runs each influenced the thinking of the selectors.....
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #370 on: March 30, 2018, 08:53:20 AM »

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The cheat has said he’s going to give up, sorry ‘manage his workload’ .. so might not play.. lots of 2020 for him to spot fix remember
You had me stumped there, in  all the Australian chaos totally slipped my mind regarding Amir's past woes.I thought Amir's plan was to play only away matches as to avoid the the cement pitches in the middle east?
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #371 on: March 30, 2018, 08:57:36 AM »

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The cheat has said he’s going to give up, sorry ‘manage his workload’ .. so might not play.. lots of 2020 for him to spot fix remember

Give him a break. Why all the hate? He did something very wrong and was handed a 5 years ban for it which is a severe enough punishment.
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #372 on: March 30, 2018, 10:27:04 AM »

Vince looks good then just gets out. A bit like me except I don't even look good!

I sometimes look good. Just not on a cricket field.
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #373 on: March 30, 2018, 11:09:54 AM »

See, told you e was wasted at seven...
See, told you he scores runs at 7... ;)
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #374 on: March 30, 2018, 11:25:34 AM »

Cook just looks cooked. 150-odd tests in a row, there's got to be some part of him that's telling him he's shot and knackered. I think if he takes a break now, he may not come back.  I wouldn't be surprised if he played the test summer then quit, or if he quit after this tour.  He is playing poorly at the mo but even so it leaves a massive gap 1-3 if he goes now.

Stoneman needs to start converting. 50s then out at the top of the order are a worse than Roots conversion rate at 4. I think Stoneman has shown enough to be given the start of the summer.

Vince needs to go. Simply not good enough. Root at 4, Malan at 5 or 3. For the english summer I'd like to see this given a go...

1. Cook or an opener off to a flyer
2. Hameed or an opener off to a flyer
3. Malan
4. Root
5. Bairstow
6. Stokes (as an allrounder)
7. Foakes (wk)
8. Leach
9. Woakes/Wood
10. Broad
11. Anderson

Moeens needs to get his batting back on track and either come back as a batsman or really work on his spin game. He can't carry that role as per current form. Leach takes wickets in county cricket, give him a go.

Bairstow strengthens top five, but the it does leave a longer tail. I'd be asking the batsmen to do their jobs... five bowler attack with a traditional top six contributing with the bat. I wouldn't have 1, 2 or 3 as show ins. See who's going well in home conditions amd guve them a go, i don't care how old or young they are...
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