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Mister Le Chiffre

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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #150 on: March 22, 2018, 10:18:49 AM »
I know Bairstow isn't keen but I think it's time that he ditches the gloves. We need Root and Bairstow at 3/4 as we are usually 2/3 down early and we struggle to recover
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #151 on: March 22, 2018, 10:21:01 AM »
Quote from: Mister Le Chiffre on March 22, 2018, 10:18:49 AM
I know Bairstow isn't keen but I think it's time that he ditches the gloves. We need Root and Bairstow at 3/4 as we are usually 2/3 down early and we struggle to recover

But neither are good vs the swinging ball!!! 4/5 sure but not top three..

Ffs jut watch root vs the moving ball, he doesn’t do well. It’s almost regarded as a shame if someone says ‘I’m not a top 3bat, bt I am a good 4/5/6.eaxh position requires subtle skill sets and each position is as important as the other. Put people in their best slots and stop trying to pigeon hole people
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #152 on: March 22, 2018, 10:26:04 AM »
Quote from: RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie on March 22, 2018, 10:21:01 AM
But neither are good vs the swinging ball!!! 4/5 sure but not top three..

Ffs jut watch root vs the moving ball, he doesn’t do well. It’s almost regarded as a shame if someone says ‘I’m not a top 3bat, bt I am a good 4/5/6.eaxh position requires subtle skill sets and each position is as important as the other. Put people in their best slots and stop trying to pigeon hole people
I think Root has the capacity to improve I mean the boy averages 53 in Tests. And if he bats 4, he comes in 15-2 all the time - well recently anyway
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #153 on: March 22, 2018, 10:28:46 AM »
Quote from: Mister Le Chiffre on March 22, 2018, 10:26:04 AM
I think Root has the capacity to improve I mean the boy averages 53 in Tests. And if he bats 4, he comes in 15-2 all the time - well recently anyway

We shall agree to disagree as I doubt we will change each other’s opinion.
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« Reply #154 on: March 22, 2018, 10:33:21 AM »
Quote from: RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie on March 22, 2018, 10:09:37 AM
Is he ?? I’m nit sure Bairstow has shown enough to say that

I think he has, quite comfortably.
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #155 on: March 22, 2018, 11:07:38 AM »
Quote from: RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie on March 22, 2018, 09:52:01 AM
You realise stokes is the same type of bowler again right ?? He’s not fast.....

Irrelevant. What I am saying is they are picking the side incorrectly if Stokes can't bowl.

If he can bowl then you pick a different side.
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #156 on: March 22, 2018, 11:12:50 AM »
Quote from: six and out on March 22, 2018, 11:07:38 AM
Irrelevant. What I am saying is they are picking the side incorrectly if Stokes can't bowl.

If he can bowl then you pick a different side.

So Stokes can bowl and replaces Overton.. you’ve not really changed anything .... who,comes in for Overton who is a viable option ?
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #157 on: March 22, 2018, 11:25:07 AM »
Quote from: RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie on March 22, 2018, 11:12:50 AM
So Stokes can bowl and replaces Overton.. you’ve not really changed anything .... who,comes in for Overton who is a viable option ?

On the squad wood

Going forward someone like his brother a genuine quick
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #158 on: March 22, 2018, 11:27:43 AM »
Quote from: alexhilly1492 on March 22, 2018, 11:25:07 AM
On the squad wood

Going forward someone like his brother a genuine quick

Re-watch the white ball games. Wood wasn’t near 90mph. He hasn’t been for a year or two.
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #159 on: March 22, 2018, 11:30:25 AM »
Quote from: RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie on March 22, 2018, 11:27:43 AM
Re-watch the white ball games. Wood wasn’t near 90mph. He hasn’t been for a year or two.

I know but he does bowl a heavier length it’s soemthing different at least!

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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #160 on: March 22, 2018, 11:32:09 AM »
Quote from: RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie on March 22, 2018, 11:27:43 AM
Re-watch the white ball games. Wood wasn’t near 90mph. He hasn’t been for a year or two.
Ever since the he picked up an injury after the 2015 Ashes he's never been super quick
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #161 on: March 22, 2018, 11:36:04 AM »
Quote from: liscon12 on March 22, 2018, 11:32:09 AM
Ever since the he picked up an injury after the 2015 Ashes he's never been super quick

Not sure he was ever express.
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #162 on: March 22, 2018, 11:40:42 AM »
Always tickles me when every man and their dog pipe up about how England are doomed because we haven't got any proper rapid bowlers... as we get taken to pieces by Trent Boult and Tim Southee.
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #163 on: March 22, 2018, 11:47:45 AM »
Quote from: edge on March 22, 2018, 11:40:42 AM
Always tickles me when every man and their dog pipe up about how England are doomed because we haven't got any proper rapid bowlers... as we get taken to pieces by Trent Boult and Tim Southee.

Probably more down to our inept batting and nz weren’t as bad..
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #164 on: March 22, 2018, 11:53:12 AM »
Quote from: RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie on March 22, 2018, 11:47:45 AM
Probably more down to our inept batting and nz weren’t as bad..
Oh no denying that, I watched it all live and it was dreadful. We need to score more runs rather than any problems with our seamers, unfortunately Stoneman and Cook looked pretty poor throughout and it got worse from there.
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