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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #105 on: May 15, 2018, 09:25:40 PM »
Quote from: alexhilly1492 on May 15, 2018, 08:55:18 PM
Which both bairstow and stokes have done in the past

As has buttler (in India last time he played)

Um ok. Sure.. no issues with England’s batting for the last 12-18months then no?
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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #106 on: May 16, 2018, 05:33:09 AM »
Quote from: RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie on May 15, 2018, 09:25:40 PM
Um ok. Sure.. no issues with England’s batting for the last 12-18months then no?

I’m not saying they’ve done it consistently but all 3 have shown they can knuckle down when needed
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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #107 on: May 16, 2018, 06:28:53 AM »
Quote from: alexhilly1492 on May 16, 2018, 05:33:09 AM
I’m not saying they’ve done it consistently but all 3 have shown they can knuckle down when needed

Westerly has a ton at test level.. does that make him good enough to be England’s opener?  He’s done it once, shown he can etc etc

Sure theyn’can’ but they don’t so why keep picking and blindly hoping for improvement ? Meh, either way PK will be slaughtered regardless of who England pick. Barely beat Ireland
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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #108 on: May 16, 2018, 07:07:30 AM »
I think that’s quite a disservice to Ireland tbh who I thought we good except first innings batting

Been thinking about it and I quite like the squad would have taken Curran s over wood but it’s shown different thinking for once

Also what’s wrong with giving people a chance after a while out of the team? Yes I’d rather it be someone who ha scores runs in county cricket,

If vince was kicked you’d be moaning as he hasn’t proved it at test level...

I don’t think you’ve said who you’d kick yet just moaned that white ball cricket is killing test matches.... what would be your eleven?
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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #109 on: May 16, 2018, 07:54:00 AM »
Quote from: RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie on May 16, 2018, 06:28:53 AM
Westerly has a ton at test level.. does that make him good enough to be England’s opener?  He’s done it once, shown he can etc etc

Sure theyn’can’ but they don’t so why keep picking and blindly hoping for improvement ? Meh, either way PK will be slaughtered regardless of who England pick. Barely beat Ireland

Yes Pakistan are rebuilding they have a young inexperience batting lineup struggled at against the medium pace of Rankin and co on a greenish pitch both Pakistan and Ireland's  bowling looked ordenary  if it swings at Lords Can see Anderson causing havoc.
England to win the series with inflated averages
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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #110 on: May 16, 2018, 08:54:42 AM »
A point missed, I think: Joe Root effectively dropped Vince by deciding that he'll bat 3.
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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #111 on: May 16, 2018, 09:27:10 AM »
Quote from: edge on May 16, 2018, 08:54:42 AM
A point missed, I think: Joe Root effectively dropped Vince by deciding that he'll bat 3.
Not really.
Ed Smith said how do we fit in Jos Buttler and this was the answer.
Vince could bat at 4
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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #112 on: May 16, 2018, 09:42:29 AM »
Quote from: Buzz on May 16, 2018, 09:27:10 AM
Not really.
Ed Smith said how do we fit in Jos Buttler and this was the answer.
Vince could bat at 4
Smith also said they wanted to move Bairstow up to 5 though, so someone had to go to make room. Unless you were going to play a specialist batsman at 7, but surely noone would do that in test matches...
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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #113 on: May 16, 2018, 10:02:01 AM »
Well quite the team is a bit bonkers with Jos at 7. Jos is a 6, but so is Stokes. Bairstow is a 4 but wants to keep so is at 5. Malan is a 5 but Bairstow so is 4. Root should be at 3, but prefers 4. So a compromise has been reached.
Cook is probably finished, but has 10,000 test runs so is unstoppable. Stoneman is in horrible form...

And then there is the bowling as I mentioned previously.

Honestly they need to look much more objectively at the team direction and have a coherent strategy.

Under Strauss and Flower you have that.
Under Root and Bayliss we don't
Cook didn't have a plan either other than give the ball to Swann and Anderson. (Similar worked for Ponting...!)
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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #114 on: May 16, 2018, 10:11:25 AM »
Agree Root/Bayliss seem to have no idea how they want the team to play, hence usually just trying to pack it with all-rounders to give plenty  of options and hoping for the best. Someone needs to sort Tim Bresnan out a bionic elbow, or perhaps more realistically hope that Ryan Sidebottom really rubs off on Sam Curran.
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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #115 on: May 16, 2018, 11:08:05 AM »
Jonathan Agnew is unusually positive on the BBC website. Perhaps because Ed Smith is his TMS chum.
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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #116 on: May 16, 2018, 11:26:10 AM »
Quite all chummy for your mates.
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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #117 on: May 22, 2018, 12:53:06 PM »
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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #118 on: May 22, 2018, 01:10:12 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on May 16, 2018, 11:08:05 AM
Jonathan Agnew is unusually positive on the BBC website. Perhaps because Ed Smith is his TMS chum.

Jobs for the boys, how do you think Smith ended up with the job
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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #119 on: May 22, 2018, 03:02:18 PM »
Should be as easy a series win at home in recent times. Pakistan don't have any top class players
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