Topic: England Test Series vs Pakistan (Read 60469 times)

FattusCattus · « **Reply #195 on:** May 24, 2018, 08:31:36 PM »

Quote from: Mister Le Chiffre on May 24, 2018, 05:14:53 PM

Mark Wood lacks the skill and heart required for Test cricket. The speed gun says 89mph but he can't swing it and he's literally got no intimidation factor at all.

Rubbish! I was there today and Wood looked more threatening than Broad or Stokes. Broad might�ve got the wicket, but I reckon only 10% of what he bowled needed to be played at, whereas Wood bowled a lot straighter.

JB · « **Reply #196 on:** May 24, 2018, 08:55:55 PM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on May 24, 2018, 07:41:19 PM

Dare I suggest today was a day for a Chris Woakes type cricketer?

Fully agree, I think he understands the whole concept of test match cricket. Not sure that many others do

alexhilly1492 · « **Reply #197 on:** May 24, 2018, 08:58:36 PM »

England have changed pretty much everything since the winter except the coach

Time for Bayliss to go!

SD · « **Reply #198 on:** May 24, 2018, 09:31:22 PM »

Quote from: FattusCattus on May 24, 2018, 08:31:36 PM

Rubbish! I was there today and Wood looked more threatening than Broad or Stokes. Broad might�ve got the wicket, but I reckon only 10% of what he bowled needed to be played at, whereas Wood bowled a lot straighter.

I wasn't at Lord's today but I would agree that Wood always looks more of a danger when I have seen him bowl in person. I also don't like the fascination with the speed gun. Wood has a really unusual action of the type that batsmen struggle to pick up and therefore have less time to play. There will always be bowlers who register well on the speed gun but have actions that make it easier for the batsman to pick and therefore have more time to play.

Woakes hasn't been anywhere near his best since the torn muscle he picked up earlier last season. One hopes that it hasn't permanently limited his performance but he has been a shadow of the bowler he was in red ball cricket since picking up the injury

stamper · « **Reply #199 on:** May 24, 2018, 10:32:35 PM »

I am '23:25 at night after a crap day at work' annoyed that Root has now decided that 3 is his spot at the expense of Vince. On the very tough trip to Australasia -
Root : "4's my position, get the noob to bat at three"
Back at home : "on yer bike Vince, you've had yer chance"
"but even Ricky Ponting had a run at 6, 5 and 4"
"Don't care son, we're English cricket selectors, and we're thick as pigshit"
An equally unfair thing happened to Michael Carberry. Averaged around 30 on the tour from hell which was 3rd best in the England team, and then gets dropped. And how many openers have we had since?

Yes I am a Hampshire fan so am biased with these two, but all the same...

edge · « **Reply #200 on:** May 24, 2018, 11:09:21 PM »

Root's batting 3 because of the prolonged failure of Vince, not at his expense... As for Carberry, bloke batted out of his skin to average 30 - looked out of his depth throughout.

As for our batting in this game, deckchairs/titanic etc etc. Poor Stoneman looks worse every game he plays, Root's not all that good at 3, Bairstow isn't all that good at 5, and a specialist no7 batsman is still a crap idea... Be amazed if more than 3 of the top 7 are in the same position by the end of the summer.

SD · « **Reply #201 on:** May 25, 2018, 01:15:57 AM »

Agree entirely. Vince hasn't been sacrificed so that Root can bat at 3 - Root is sacrificing himself because Vince failed at 3.

six and out · « **Reply #202 on:** May 25, 2018, 06:33:38 AM »

Interesting stat I read on the BBC -

Pakistan's XI for this match has more days of first-class cricket between them this summer than England's - 126 to England's 82

In this day and age around bad prep for touring sides that has to be commended. There preparations really showed in the way they bowled yesterday.

However I must say that stat is also very concerning considering that out of our 82 days Bess and Cook must have quite a few of those.

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #203 on:** May 25, 2018, 08:49:25 AM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on May 24, 2018, 07:41:19 PM

Dare I suggest today was a day for a Chris Woakes type cricketer?

Woakes arrived back in England last week after spending most of the last 6 weeks travelling around India and after being left out of Kolis team sat on the RCB bench.
Not good preparation for any type of test cricketer.

alexhilly1492 · « **Reply #204 on:** May 25, 2018, 08:54:10 AM »

Quote from: Seniorplayer on May 25, 2018, 08:49:25 AM

Woakes arrived back in England last week after spending most of the last 6 weeks travelling around India and after being left out of Kolis team sat on the RCB bench.
Not good preparation for any type of test cricketer.

That doesn�t change the fact we could have done with a woakes TYPE of cricket as @Bats_Entertainment suggested

northernboy1987 · « **Reply #205 on:** May 25, 2018, 08:56:13 AM »

Quote from: Seniorplayer on May 25, 2018, 08:49:25 AM

Woakes arrived back in England last week after spending most of the last 6 weeks travelling around India and after being left out of Kolis team sat on the RCB bench.
Not good preparation for any type of test cricketer.

To be fair, with the exception of one 2nd division game against Derbyshire, Mark Wood has spent the last couple of months doing much the same.

six and out · « **Reply #206 on:** May 25, 2018, 09:05:24 AM »

We can say what we like about Woakes at the end of the day it was our batting and top order that let us down again...... Root won the toss and batted..... therefore you expect to put at least 350 on the board, and yet again we didn't.

If we had picked Woakes he would be in the side predominantly for his bowling, he would have been batting at 8 and would have could in at 168-6. Maybe he might have got a few more after that and put on a partnership with Buttler..... but who knows, one thing i do know is even with Woakes in the team our top 7 are the same and did rubbish again!

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #207 on:** May 25, 2018, 09:35:57 AM »

Quote from: alexhilly1492 on May 25, 2018, 08:54:10 AM

That doesn�t change the fact we could have done with a woakes TYPE of cricket as @Bats_Entertainment suggested

Okay name one

Rob580 · « **Reply #208 on:** May 25, 2018, 09:39:34 AM »

Quote from: Seniorplayer on May 25, 2018, 09:35:57 AM

Okay name one

Chris Woakes.

For all the complaints we may have about him, he is very Chris Woakes-ish

alexhilly1492 · « **Reply #209 on:** May 25, 2018, 10:00:01 AM »

Quote from: Seniorplayer on May 25, 2018, 09:35:57 AM

Okay name one

Craig Overton
Tom Curran
Sam Curran

all bowling all rounders,

overton showed he could dig in over the winter, the currans have both done it for surrey with sam obviously the better bat

woakes is still by far the best woakes style player we have but there are options!

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