Topic: England Vs India Test Matches (Read 170844 times)

alexevo94 · « **Reply #570 on:** August 07, 2018, 12:54:12 PM »

What do we think india�s Changes will be. Pujara for me has to come in I know he�s out of form but when you average 50 in test cricket has to be in the side

ppccopener · « **Reply #571 on:** August 07, 2018, 12:59:54 PM »

Pujara has scored no runs since he has been over here and that's the reason they left him out according to India

absolute dead cert for me to get him in, India need one who can bat for a day, and his test record is superb.

jadeja also in the side as an allrounder and they look much stronger

wouldn't be surprised to see ashwin, jadeja and the wrist spinner all in. we havnt played spin well and Lords did turn last time. Some rain forecast thou for London end of this week....

six and out · « **Reply #572 on:** August 07, 2018, 01:18:11 PM »

I think we also need to consider the continuity issue here, for everyone saying about Pope batting 6, whats that for 1 test? because Stokes won't move from 6 when he comes back in, he has shown that on numerous occasions he doesn't want to bat anywhere else.

For that reason i bat Pope at 5, i agree 4 could be too high, so Bairstow goes up to 4 (if everyone does their job he should be fine keeping and doing 4), Pope 5, Butler 6, Ali/Woakes 7, Curran 8 etc.... then when Stokes is back he slots back into 6 and Butler drops back to 7.

Butler is in the side to bat in a certain way at number 6/7 so what is the point in moving him.

As for India, surely Pujura comes in. For who i am not sure though, as you could pick 3 or 4 of them. Hardik Panya hardly bowled in the 1st Test so they actually could completely change the balance of their side and play the extra batsman. Especially if Ashwin is going to bowl all day from one end.

alexevo94 · « **Reply #573 on:** August 07, 2018, 01:29:33 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on August 07, 2018, 12:59:54 PM

Pujara has scored no runs since he has been over here and that's the reason they left him out according to India

absolute dead cert for me to get him in, India need one who can bat for a day, and his test record is superb.

jadeja also in the side as an allrounder and they look much stronger

wouldn't be surprised to see ashwin, jadeja and the wrist spinner all in. we havnt played spin well and Lords did turn last time. Some rain forecast thou for London end of this week....

I know but there Batting doesn�t look good without him in the side I think he comes in for Rahul and jadeja in for pandya

ppccopener · « **Reply #574 on:** August 07, 2018, 01:35:00 PM »

maybe mis informed here but what exactly has Dharwan done to retain his place? never seems to score any runs against he moving ball to me.

he would be the one left out and pujara in his place

pandya.....some talent that kid has, decent pace and destructive down the order.

india have difficult selection just like we have....

hammersjr · « **Reply #575 on:** August 07, 2018, 01:38:23 PM »

I don�t understand the real difference between Pope batting 4 or 5 for England. He may face the ball when it�s a bit newer but with England he�s going to be in early wherever he bats

Should slot in at 4 for me and hopefully stay there for a long time.

alexevo94 · « **Reply #576 on:** August 07, 2018, 01:42:25 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on August 07, 2018, 01:35:00 PM

maybe mis informed here but what exactly has Dharwan done to retain his place? never seems to score any runs against he moving ball to me.

he would be the one left out and pujara in his place

pandya.....some talent that kid has, decent pace and destructive down the order.

india have difficult selection just like we have....

He scored runs in Sri Lanka couple of months back. But he doesn�t play the moving ball well but hard to give him one test and out. They would have to move Rahul up to open and he looked just as bad. Even when they played in South Africa he was poor

mo_town · « **Reply #577 on:** August 07, 2018, 01:52:30 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on August 07, 2018, 01:35:00 PM

maybe mis informed here but what exactly has Dharwan done to retain his place? never seems to score any runs against he moving ball to me.

he would be the one left out and pujara in his place

pandya.....some talent that kid has, decent pace and destructive down the order.

india have difficult selection just like we have....

Pandya does not deserve a place in this XI. you cannot rely on him with bat or ball...not sure if Bhuvi is in the squad, but he would be a much better choice. Bhuvi proved in SA that he is quite capable with the bat too.
Openers are a problem area for sure. Neither of them have performed but we dont have too many choices. So sadly we are stuck with them. Think Karthik will be dropped and Rahul will be asked to keep to get Pujara in. I would have loved to see Pant get a chance but thats a long shot.

SLA · « **Reply #578 on:** August 07, 2018, 01:56:20 PM »

Quote from: six and out on August 07, 2018, 01:18:11 PM

when he comes back in

lol

Wormwood Scrubs 1st XI maybe

alexevo94 · « **Reply #579 on:** August 07, 2018, 02:02:00 PM »

Quote from: mo_town on August 07, 2018, 01:52:30 PM

Pandya does not deserve a place in this XI. you cannot rely on him with bat or ball...not sure if Bhuvi is in the squad, but he would be a much better choice. Bhuvi proved in SA that he is quite capable with the bat too.
Openers are a problem area for sure. Neither of them have performed but we dont have too many choices. So sadly we are stuck with them. Think Karthik will be dropped and Rahul will be asked to keep to get Pujara in. I would have loved to see Pant get a chance but thats a long shot.

Going to be difficult for Rahul to bat 3 or open and take the gloves

Biggie Smalls · « **Reply #580 on:** August 07, 2018, 02:16:05 PM »

Given the current mix of players my team for 3rd test when stokes is back :
Cook
Root
Bairstow
Pope
Stokes
Ali
Buttler (wk)
Woakes
Curran
Rashid
Anderson

I don't understand how a specialist bat /v.c can be at 7. Either he is good enough to be in the top order as a specialist (which I'm not sure about) or he has to do more at 7 (ie keep) and get someone capable into the top order , like bairstow (and relieve him of his keeping duties).
Any way you want to tweak this , this is not ideal and results in a no7 who doesn't keep , or a top order bat who keeps , or too many bits and pieces allrounders , or guys batting out of position while others bat in their preferred position even though they should really bat somewhere else , or bringing back players who have been tried and failed before etc etc .

alexevo94 · « **Reply #581 on:** August 07, 2018, 02:29:04 PM »

Quote from: Biggie Smalls on August 07, 2018, 02:16:05 PM

Given the current mix of players my team for 3rd test when stokes is back :
Cook
Root
Bairstow
Pope
Stokes
Ali
Buttler (wk)
Woakes
Curran
Rashid
Anderson

I don't understand how a specialist bat /v.c can be at 7. Either he is good enough to be in the top order as a specialist (which I'm not sure about) or he has to do more at 7 (ie keep) and get someone capable into the top order , like bairstow (and relieve him of his keeping duties).
Any way you want to tweak this , this is not ideal and results in a no7 who doesn't keep , or a top order bat who keeps , or too many bits and pieces allrounders , or guys batting out of position while others bat in their preferred position even though they should really bat somewhere else , or bringing back players who have been tried and failed before etc etc .

Root opening it was a struggle to get him to bat 3. If that happens mate I�d put lottery on

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #582 on:** August 07, 2018, 03:21:15 PM »

So how many of us have actually seen Ollie Pope bat?

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #583 on:** August 07, 2018, 04:32:08 PM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on August 07, 2018, 03:21:15 PM

So how many of us have actually seen Ollie Pope bat?

Seen him once this season and he got a daddy ton, did look class plus he use GM must be good lol

golders · « **Reply #584 on:** August 07, 2018, 04:43:59 PM »

Didn�t Kumar Sangakarra spend a lot of his career keeping and batting 3? I think at this moment with the batters we have, he should bat 4.

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