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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #375 on: November 10, 2018, 05:14:53 PM »
I hate to open this up again, but I've just read that Bayliss is saying that Ali may drop down the order and all three keepers could play.

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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #376 on: November 10, 2018, 05:27:43 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on November 10, 2018, 05:14:53 PM
I hate to open this up again, but I've just read that Bayliss is saying that Ali may drop down the order and all three keepers could play.

Assuming it’s not wet the wicket will be a Bunsen. Curran out as englsnd will need spin. SL are way to crap to not produce a Bunsen
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #377 on: November 10, 2018, 05:32:02 PM »
Quote from: RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie on November 10, 2018, 05:27:43 PM
Assuming it’s not wet the wicket will be a Bunsen. Curran out as englsnd will need spin. SL are way to crap to not produce a Bunsen

Pundits are saying the wicket is  normally more seamer freindly
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #378 on: November 10, 2018, 05:41:18 PM »
Whatever they do, please don't drop Burns. 
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #379 on: November 10, 2018, 05:44:32 PM »
Quote from: Manormanic on November 10, 2018, 05:41:18 PM
Whatever they do, please don't drop Burns.

Surely not ? Got to give him a run of 10 innings at least (with account taken for who it’s agaisnt )
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #380 on: November 10, 2018, 05:52:39 PM »
Quote from: RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie on November 10, 2018, 05:44:32 PM
Surely not ? Got to give him a run of 10 innings at least (with account taken for who it’s agaisnt )

We've made the same mistake repetitively for the last seven years - bring someone in, give them five minutes, cast them aside.  The fact that only Jennings of the double figures of openers have been recalled is worrying.  So, yes, I worry that the selectors will get this wrong again and go "ah, he did nowt much, he can wait till the Windies".  He needs to be told he will play everything to the second Ashes test to give him confidence and reassurance.  If that means Bairstow rests two tests, much as I think we're wasting one of our two best players, its the right thing to do.
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #381 on: November 10, 2018, 05:58:17 PM »
Quote from: Seniorplayer on November 10, 2018, 05:32:02 PM
Pundits are saying the wicket is  normally more seamer freindly

More seamer friendly than Galle yes. But we aren't talking Headingley in April

The same attack should be picked, 3 seamers is plenty!

For me, and this is where England have messed up several times to my memory, when picking an attack in an away Test you should see what the hosts do and try and replicate it. England in this case have the luxury of Stokes and Ali as all rounders and so are able to have an even better balance and variety to their bowling attack than Sri Lanka!
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #382 on: November 10, 2018, 06:05:52 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on November 10, 2018, 05:14:53 PM
I hate to open this up again, but I've just read that Bayliss is saying that Ali may drop down the order and all three keepers could play.


I believe this is what you are referring to....

Sri Lanka v England: Moeen Ali to move down batting order - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/46162267

I also draw you to this..... in which Root says 'i don't think we can leave Ben Foakes out".

Joe Root: England captain says he has tough job to pick second-Test XI - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/46153517

The way I see it Root has 3 options -

1. Don't change a winning team and Bairstow doesn't play
2. Drop Curran move Mo down to 8 and Bairstow comes in.
3. Drop a spinner (likely Rashid) move Mo down to 8, Curran to 9, and Bairstow comes in.

Personally I favour number 1. Don't change a winning team. Bairstow waits his turn etc...
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #383 on: November 10, 2018, 06:06:58 PM »
Quote from: Manormanic on November 10, 2018, 05:52:39 PM
We've made the same mistake repetitively for the last seven years - bring someone in, give them five minutes, cast them aside.  The fact that only Jennings of the double figures of openers have been recalled is worrying.  So, yes, I worry that the selectors will get this wrong again and go "ah, he did nowt much, he can wait till the Windies".  He needs to be told he will play everything to the second Ashes test to give him confidence and reassurance.  If that means Bairstow rests two tests, much as I think we're wasting one of our two best players, its the right thing to do.

I’d give him this tour and next at the bare min. I would expect high returns from WI and having seem this SL side is expect high returns from this tour too. Avg sub 40 can’t be tolerated agaisnt such teams (plus, it should be consistency not one monster innings).

Always look deeper than the bare stats
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #384 on: November 10, 2018, 06:11:27 PM »
Interested to see who bats 3 in scenarios 2 & 3
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #385 on: November 10, 2018, 06:22:01 PM »
Could drop Rashid for Denly, who would bat 3 and bowl leggies, then you can bring Bairstow in for Curran or leave it at that.
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #386 on: November 10, 2018, 06:30:28 PM »
Quote from: billyb on November 10, 2018, 06:22:01 PM
Could drop Rashid for Denly, who would bat 3 and bowl leggies, then you can bring Bairstow in for Curran or leave it at that.

They could if they were idiots. Why would you want to severely weaken a bowling attack that was perfectly balanced in the last Test?
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #387 on: November 10, 2018, 06:39:41 PM »
I don't think they would, but it would solve the 3 problem. Obviously Rashid is the better spinner.
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #388 on: November 10, 2018, 06:43:19 PM »
Quote from: billyb on November 10, 2018, 06:39:41 PM
I don't think they would, but it would solve the 3 problem. Obviously Rashid is the better spinner.

Denly doesn’t solve any problem as he is totally unproven too..
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #389 on: November 10, 2018, 06:44:14 PM »
Quote from: billyb on November 10, 2018, 06:22:01 PM
Could drop Rashid for Denly, who would bat 3 and bowl leggies, then you can bring Bairstow in for Curran or leave it at that.
And bat who at 8 and 9, Ali and Buttler?
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