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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #255 on: December 30, 2018, 07:13:28 PM »

Absolutely it had been going on before hand. Warner knew he'd been spotted and find another culprit. Cheats. End of
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #256 on: December 30, 2018, 08:21:06 PM »

Can you explain Warner wearing hand wraps for the last 5/6/7 years? Sore hands when he fields but able to tee off in global t20 leagues no problem

Okay, on the basis that I don't know what if anything was beneath them, let's analyse this. If they had been at it for years, why were they suddenly so much more successful in the final nine months? And what does it say about the sides who got so much more movement than them?
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« Reply #257 on: December 30, 2018, 09:25:45 PM »

Think the common denominator here is David Saker. When he became bowling coach for England we suddenly started getting reverse swing on a consistent basis. Just as recently as SL Anderson didn't get any reverse swing.

Now Saker is with Australia they became king of reverse swing.

This is the same David Saker Warne claimed should've played many tests for Australia.

Saker = king of the dark arts
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #258 on: December 30, 2018, 09:51:39 PM »

Wowsers, some pretty big accusations going on in this thread.

I'd definitely make sure I had all the facts before slinging the mud around.
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #259 on: December 30, 2018, 09:57:39 PM »

Ya, without proper proof, we shouldn't be downplaying what have been genuine good performances over the years..Just wristbands, etc., don't suggest much..
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #260 on: December 31, 2018, 08:45:39 AM »

I'd like to believe this was the first time, but Warner having his hands taped up like a boxer for the last year or so makes me pretty suspicious.
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #261 on: December 31, 2018, 12:14:51 PM »

Ya, without proper proof, we shouldn't be downplaying what have been genuine good performances over the years..Just wristbands, etc., don't suggest much..

I think that you lose the right to the benefit of the doubt when you have been caught cheating in the way Australia have.  Some thought the bans handed out where disproportionate but the 3 lads seem to be sacrificial lambs offered up to avoid a deeper probe into how long this has been going on for and how many other players knew about this going on. 
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #262 on: December 31, 2018, 02:43:20 PM »

I think that you lose the right to the benefit of the doubt when you have been caught cheating in the way Australia have.  Some thought the bans handed out where disproportionate but the 3 lads seem to be sacrificial lambs offered up to avoid a deeper probe into how long this has been going on for and how many other players knew about this going on.

And how many other countries?
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #263 on: December 31, 2018, 03:52:29 PM »

And how many other countries?

Valid question.

Given we’ve had over the last few years ..

Pakistan players spot fixing
South African players ball tampering
Indian players banned for match fixing
South African betting scams
Australian players banned for ball tampering


Add that to atherton, Gibbs and co etc etc

No team is clean and these are just the ones that have been caught
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #264 on: December 31, 2018, 04:16:43 PM »

Back to cricket...whats with Australia sticking with the same players instead of giving an opportunity to other players. Still dont understand why Maxwell is not in the scheme of things.
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #265 on: December 31, 2018, 09:45:04 PM »

I'd like to believe this was the first time, but Warner having his hands taped up like a boxer for the last year or so makes me pretty suspicious.

Year or so?! Hes had them most of his career

Heres the thing - I used to treat Australia the same as every other country. Benefit of the doubt, credit where credit is due, play hard on the field and all those other cliches. May the best team win and what happens on the field stays on it

Since i went on the Ashes tour and witnessed what can only be described as a hate campaign in the press against anything english, blind patriotism to the point of criminal injustice and blatant racism in the crowds towards Moeen Ali my feelings have changed somewhat

People seem to have forgotten that David Warner physically assaulted Joe Root a few years back but Root brushed it all under the carpet to prevent it escalating. Roll on a few years and Australia fabricate a story about Bairstow assaulting Bancroft and then giggle about it in a press conference

They deserve all they get. The win at all costs attitude is fine if you dont care what others think. But dont expect sympathy or the benefit of the doubt after that sort of behaviour

I said it last year and was called a troll but their morals are in the gutter
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #266 on: December 31, 2018, 10:28:06 PM »

That is disgusting what you described

I do think the Aussies are different with Paine but they are not as dangerous either

We will see what happens when Warner returns which seems Inevitable
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #267 on: December 31, 2018, 10:55:06 PM »

Warner will never play again for Aus.. they have too much to lose from the short termism
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #268 on: January 02, 2019, 10:37:32 AM »

Back to the cricket, India named a thirteen man squad for the fourth test. Ishant is out with a rib injury and Rohit has returned to India following the birth of his daughter.

Rather strangely Ashwin was reported to have 'failed a fitness test' yet two hours later he was deemed fit.

KL Rahul will open and Vihari back to 6. Rather strange they flew in Pandya yet he's not selected.
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Re: Australia vs India
« Reply #269 on: January 02, 2019, 11:01:16 AM »

Warner will never play again for Aus.. they have too much to lose from the short termism

Given what paine’s been saying in the press conferences and cricket australia’s Reintergration statement - he’ll definitely walk straight back in the side
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