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Re: Aldred bats
« Reply #45 on: December 04, 2018, 10:31:52 AM »
I'd agree, you can throw a heap of accusations at Paul, but he makes a bloody good bat, and his prices are very reasonable.
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Re: Aldred bats
« Reply #46 on: December 04, 2018, 11:25:15 AM »
Quote from: jblowe on December 03, 2018, 12:23:42 PM
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Sorry i did reply to this but for some reason it didn't appear. Its a normal SH width
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Re: Aldred bats
« Reply #47 on: December 04, 2018, 11:27:04 AM »
Quote from: JK Lewis on December 03, 2018, 06:55:50 PM
@jjelricksmith just a follow up.

I had a look at Paul's FB page. Here's a photo, these may be the bats you bought last summer, together with your original Aldred bat. The blades seem to all be full size, though the middle one is maybe around 1cm shorter. We could debate if 1cm difference in length is within acceptable tolerances. But, we can't see the handles in this photo, so I guess that one of them might be shorter than the other - SSH rather than SH as you say. Maybe you could post up another photo to illustrate your point.



Yeah these are mine. The 2 on the left are shorter. The one on the right is normal length.
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Re: Aldred bats
« Reply #48 on: December 04, 2018, 11:32:40 AM »
None of them look harrow size to me or even shorter. Hand made product gonna be different each time even following same procedure. That size difference in photo seems ignorable to me.
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Re: Aldred bats
« Reply #49 on: December 04, 2018, 11:52:14 AM »
Out of interest how are you judging that? You cant even see the full bat in the photo.
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Re: Aldred bats
« Reply #50 on: December 04, 2018, 12:19:43 PM »
Because SH and SSH have the same size blade, just different length handles (the clue is in the names). So as we can see the blades are pretty much the same length as your original bat, we can be sure they're not harrow bats. A harrow blade is 1.3cm shorter than full size. I agree that the middle blade is a little shorter - as I said in my earlier post - but not so much shorter as to be a harrow in my opinion. The widths of the blades also appear to be the same, a harrow blade is narrower by around 3mm.

So, why not line the 3 bats up again and take a photo including the full length of the handles. Our analysis can then continue.
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Re: Aldred bats
« Reply #51 on: December 04, 2018, 12:48:21 PM »


Not lined up perfectly but this is what 1st brought it to my attention.
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Re: Aldred bats
« Reply #52 on: December 04, 2018, 01:10:39 PM »
Quote from: Ayrtek Cricket on December 04, 2018, 12:48:21 PM


Not lined up perfectly but this is what 1st brought it to my attention.

Not easy to be exactly sure, but the Aldred handle looks pretty similar in length to the green Ayrtek handle. The blade is obviously a little shorter, but the difference in your photo is greater than in the photo of the 3 Aldred bats. There could be slight differences in sizing, from different makers? I just go off the L&W chart, as it's the only one I'm aware of. I don't know what guidelines Paul uses, or the Ayrtek batmaker. I also don't know what tolerances are acceptable. Thoughts?

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Re: Aldred bats
« Reply #53 on: December 04, 2018, 05:45:56 PM »
If the overall bat size is correct then there may be small tolerance between handle and blade sizes, however the point here I think is that the bat itself is overall shorter and therefore not a sh bat, it’s a ssh length bat or a Harrow length bat.
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Re: Aldred bats
« Reply #54 on: December 04, 2018, 06:32:53 PM »
I concur Dan, there's a fair bit of variation around though most are the same total length which is the most important part. Point worth making is that everyone does the shoulders differently so it's a bit pointless using that corner as a precise point to measure off - I have two bats I've made myself that are exactly the same length both in blade and handle, but because I've done the shoulders dead square on one and sloped on the other they appear very different.
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Re: Aldred bats
« Reply #55 on: December 04, 2018, 07:01:29 PM »
As people have said above overall length is key, handle and blade length can vary slightly but as long as they add up to a SH length. But I suppose when you deal with an old school pro that thinks they know best things can get more than tricky!
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Re: Aldred bats
« Reply #56 on: December 04, 2018, 07:01:50 PM »
Quote from: edge on December 04, 2018, 06:32:53 PM
I concur Dan, there's a fair bit of variation around though most are the same total length which is the most important part. Point worth making is that everyone does the shoulders differently so it's a bit pointless using that corner as a precise point to measure off - I have two bats I've made myself that are exactly the same length both in blade and handle, but because I've done the shoulders dead square on one and sloped on the other they appear very different.

Yes, but in this case that doesn't really matter. JJ has 3 bats from the same batmaker to directly compare, one of which may or may not be out of tolerance. I would be very interested to know the 3 measurements from shoulder to toe, and the respective measurements from shoulder to the top of the handle. That will give us plenty enough data to discuss, and further on to compare to 'standards', which for ease of access, could be the L&W size chart.
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Re: Aldred bats
« Reply #57 on: December 05, 2018, 12:36:06 AM »
@jjelricksmith

Maybe best in future to have your bats refurbed by Paul himself.
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Re: Aldred bats
« Reply #58 on: December 05, 2018, 01:02:28 AM »
Quote from: Cholrudee on December 05, 2018, 12:36:06 AM
@jjelricksmith

Maybe best in future to have your bats refurbed by Paul himself.

why? tom refurbing it has absolutely nothing to do with how the bat was made in the first place? tom does a great job cleaning bats up.
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Re: Aldred bats
« Reply #59 on: December 05, 2018, 01:40:14 PM »
I have 3 bats sat behind me on my office, all from different brands and all exactly the same blade length.  I don't see that a tolerance of the margin here is acceptable on a hand made bat, least not from someone who constantly puts the boot into other companies for the quality of what they produce

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