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Mister Le Chiffre

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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #285 on: January 25, 2019, 04:53:18 PM »

Holder brings up his century with a monstrous six of the hapless Rashid. The Barbados local enjoying himself
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« Reply #286 on: January 25, 2019, 05:15:01 PM »

Dowrich who has an avg of what ??? 66* off 144 balls.. that’s good test match batting.l sadly all England players would be wanting 120 off 144 .. there lays the problem

Good tactics here too from WI.. no rush and grind stokes and Anderson into the dirt
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #287 on: January 25, 2019, 05:19:30 PM »



Problem is though Rashid was picked to bowl on day 5 not day 3.
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« Reply #288 on: January 25, 2019, 05:27:43 PM »

Root could bowl 10-15 overs himself rather than risk Stokes who has done a lot of bowling, there's still 2 matches to go and they come quick. It seems we got no options because we cannot put any scoreboard pressure on, it's just damage limitation now, unless it rains monsoon style we are losing this game heavily.

I wonder now if the thinking will be to get another bowler in by changing the keeper, that's the worry if we want two spinners for the next test.

Just on the spinners, Leach is a more line and length defensive bowler than the other two, England talk a lot about new style attacking batting and not just defending but there is a role for that type of batsman and bowler over 5 days.

Just listening to Stewart on Sky saying the role of 1,2,3 is to blunt the new ball, it's an old fashioned phrase and something India did very well beating the Aussies with Pujara the main one doing that role

It’s not old fashioned.. it’s test cricket.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #289 on: January 25, 2019, 06:03:09 PM »

Problem is though Rashid was picked to bowl on day 5 not day 3.

Root had more control with his leggies
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #290 on: January 25, 2019, 06:07:43 PM »

Well let’s hope the 2nd innings for us we really stand up and really value all 10 wickets, no chance of England winning but a very slim chance of batting for 2days with maybe the help of the weather.

Although odds on we lose this test still fancy us to win 2-1, this England side isn’t a bad side and it’s typical English way we crow when we win and are all experts when we lose, same in all sports we play.
I guess the one change will be the most difficult in that it looks like in these conditions Foaks will be dropped with YJB back with the gloves and Broad for Rashid you would imagine.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #291 on: January 25, 2019, 06:13:46 PM »

Well let’s hope the 2nd innings for us we really stand up and really value all 10 wickets, no chance of England winning but a very slim chance of batting for 2days with maybe the help of the weather.

Although odds on we lose this test still fancy us to win 2-1, this England side isn’t a bad side and it’s typical English way we crow when we win and are all experts when we lose, same in all sports we play.
I guess the one change will be the most difficult in that it looks like in these conditions Foaks will be dropped with YJB back with the gloves and Broad for Rashid you would imagine.

6 full sessions at least left in the game.. wicket still flat.. plenty of time to get close.. the game isn’t lost but it would take a really special batting performance..  WI dontnreally have a spinner remember so after a while, their fast bowlers will tire.. if only englsnd could bat long and see off two or theee sessions before even thinking about positive brand of cricket ..

This side is a bad side and always has been. It’s been covered up and people seem to not want to admit we have a bunch of 5/6/7’s and barely and genuine bowling .. for some reason people seem reluctant to accept we just haven’t got any good test cricketers.. avg 30’s is crap.. utter crap.. stop hiding behind potential as barring Curran, they are not young

The game isn’t lost yet.. England can lose it quickly though if they bat like normal or with this positive brand of cricket they bull crap up

The bare minimum I expect on this flat track is a draw (subject to the wicket drastically changing)
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #292 on: January 25, 2019, 06:57:30 PM »

This is nothing new though, some stats for you....

The 1st Test of our last 4 Away series....

WI this test - all out 77
Sri Lanka - we were 100-5 before Foakes bailed us out with a debut 100.
NZ - we were 58 all out!
The Ashes - we all know what happened after Vince got run out and that awful 2nd innings.

We just don't start well at all for whatever reason.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #293 on: January 25, 2019, 06:59:28 PM »

This is nothing new though, some stats for you....

The 1st Test of our last 4 Away series....

WI this test - all out 77
Sri Lanka - we were 100-5 before Foakes bailed us out with a debut 100.
NZ - we were 58 all out!
The Ashes - we all know what happened after Vince got run out and that awful 2nd innings.

We just don't start well at all for whatever reason.

Happens most innings.. bailed out by lower order players coming off. Top six should be scoring the bulk of your runs, if they aren’t then you’re picking the wrong players and/or county cricket isn’t producing the right quality
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #294 on: January 25, 2019, 07:14:36 PM »

When does Jofra Archer qualify again!? :D

Whilst there's so much to point figures at we've got to get geniune pace into the side when not in England - shame stones injured and I don't see wood ever being a hit at test match level as his body doesn't seem able to take the riggers of 15-18 overs a day
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #295 on: January 25, 2019, 07:19:32 PM »

Love how everyone is calling this a “flat” pitch now.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #296 on: January 25, 2019, 07:23:22 PM »

Very happy for Jason Holder. Genuinely nice guy - been leading a poor Team with dignity and poise , and now the universe is rewarding him with a bit of joy.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #297 on: January 25, 2019, 07:48:39 PM »

Well played Holder superb knock now for a horrible hour from behind the sofa
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #298 on: January 25, 2019, 07:57:41 PM »

Tbh after the comments Boycott made saying are average is it any surprise three local lads(Holder, Dowrich and Roach) have made him eat his own words. I don't understand why we need to insult the opposition when we've won once in their backyard in 50 odd years. It beggars belief   
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #299 on: January 25, 2019, 07:59:03 PM »

Now,let’s see this top six.. can they bat 4 sessions and show some bottle or will they try and hit their way out of it
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