Topic: England tour of West Indies (Read 148043 times)

Manormanic · « **Reply #900 on:** February 10, 2019, 02:18:17 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on February 10, 2019, 09:26:48 AM

It's a tough call to slot Roy in when he hardly plays 4 day cricket and his strength is putting bat to ball when clearly our weakness is being exposed on the current tour.

What about Malan,Stoneman,Robson and Vince?

Has their time passed now and we move onto the next generation?

I'd add Lyth and Ballance to that list. Six players who have tried test cricket and, at least in parts, been successful enough to suggest they could feasibly make it. If one of them were to have a good start to the first class season there would be a really strong argument that they merit a call up - though against that, it should be noted that Balance was the only one to really succeed in last years awful first class batting conditions, and he did so with "personal issues" that might not suggest he is mentally right for a recall.

My view of the six? Half and half - Stoneman showed that he could get in against top class bowling, but struggled to kick on or rotate the strike against spin, but could learn. Malan looked class against pace - and probably should have been our number three for this series, and Robson is young enough to come again. Lyth I would say not, at least not in the top three - he is probably more of a middle order player at the top level.

jamielsn15 · « **Reply #901 on:** February 10, 2019, 02:22:41 PM »

I get the perception that Bell made 'easy runs,' altbough that is somewhat lazy as after his knocks in South Africa, NZ and against the Aussies.

I struggle to see any professional test cricketer who scored almost 8000 runs, 20+ centuries, was man of the series in an ashes series which he won 5 times as mentally weak and lacking heart. To get to that level of professional sport and to succeed over 10 years takes commitment, sacrifice and talent - a lot of each.

He was a very good test player without being great, and was a key part of the most successful England side in recent memory. His time has almost certainly gone, but if he's averaging 50 in champ cricket this summer when they come to selecting a side for the ashes I'd far rather his experience and talent than many who've played since

Mister Le Chiffre · « **Reply #902 on:** February 10, 2019, 02:32:28 PM »

Bell's stats are padded up by bullying subcontinent teams in England, often hiding at 5/6. Read on another forum that Bell averaged over 70 against Bangladesh/India/Pakistan/Sri Lanka in England. Throw into the mix he scored 10 centuries in 38 innings at home against poor travelling teams.

Bell was vastly overrated on the basis he very elegant/easy on the eye. Bell's average of 42 shows that he was a pocket holder for the other superior batsmen. In yeaers to come, when historians speak about us reaching world #1, Bell will merely be a footnote

Manormanic · « **Reply #903 on:** February 10, 2019, 02:43:59 PM »

Interestingly, his average of 50 was built largely on runs against the weakest side in Division 2. Some would argue this is an allegory for his test career...

cricketbadger · « **Reply #904 on:** February 10, 2019, 03:06:25 PM »

Buttler with a decent Jennings impression for his dismissal, feet rooted

Duck Duck Mongoose · « **Reply #905 on:** February 10, 2019, 03:18:07 PM »

I'd like to know what kind of box YJB uses, looked to have taken a couple in there from Roach in quick succession and barely flinched

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #906 on:** February 10, 2019, 03:26:54 PM »

Bairstow doing Bairstow things, getting castled yet again

Is he seriously the best we have?

csnew · « **Reply #907 on:** February 10, 2019, 03:27:28 PM »

Diva bairstow goes after a lucky innings. Bairstow bowled again! Far far too often for apparently a good player

Roots allowed him to get his way with which number he bats and that he wants to keep but his record against most teams is poor

ppccopener · « **Reply #908 on:** February 10, 2019, 03:27:53 PM »

Yeah me too!!

He's gone now thou bowled again, for our second best bat he gets bowled a helluva lot

Calzehbhoy · « **Reply #909 on:** February 10, 2019, 03:28:31 PM »

Bairstow looked like a walking wicket. As soon as he came out windies looking to angle to ball in and wait for him to play a stupid shot.

How is he so highly rated by the England setup?

csnew · « **Reply #910 on:** February 10, 2019, 03:30:54 PM »

Moeen must consider him unlucky, usually just plays and misses at those and gets away with it.

What a collapse this is

Northern monkey · « **Reply #911 on:** February 10, 2019, 03:31:14 PM »

Mo giving catching practice

rickjames · « **Reply #912 on:** February 10, 2019, 03:31:51 PM »

Ah, pathetic once again

smilley792 · « **Reply #913 on:** February 10, 2019, 03:38:00 PM »

Guess who�s back? Back again, England�s back. Tell a friend.

England�s back
The collapse
England back.

Nah nah nah.

Duck Duck Mongoose · « **Reply #914 on:** February 10, 2019, 03:38:51 PM »

Wood demonstrating how much he wants a bowl...

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