Topic: The new Kookaburra Kahuna (Read 5824 times)

SillyShilly · « **Reply #15 on:** February 18, 2010, 03:46:28 PM »

I'd imagine the profit is very good on those clefts - wish i had a few of them knocking around!!!!
For me, those types of cleft have been graded cosmetically by wrights and hence put in a lower bracket - but consider that most trees will be cut down between 15-20 years of age, with one of those bats yielding roughly between 6-12 grains on the face - so, to get a bat with 29 grains on the face is incredibly rare, especially considering that there are fewer trees around capable od producing willow like this because of demand for quality english willow.

For me the price of the cleft and what it is sold as is irrelevant - bats with that many grains are so rare and hard to get hold nowadays, truly one offs! (Tom, that Puma you have/had is a great example of stunning grains from an ancient willow tree)

Tom · « **Reply #16 on:** February 18, 2010, 04:01:11 PM »

Oh I agree totally, some bats are worth a lot particularly ones such as the one mentioned. Just think it's a bit rich to mention profit margins (and call them the biggest profit making bat available) from other brands when he's flogging �400 bats.

Talisman · « **Reply #17 on:** February 18, 2010, 04:11:11 PM »

I personally think Tom that my �400 bat was a lot better value than a �330 Kookaburra, obviously that is based on more than seeing it here on the forum but the rarity of this willow alone justifies the price, then the fact it was made by someone not known by you in the UK who is very very good and does not make bats for a living, the sort of contact you can't google.....

Out of interest what sort of part made do you offer as the top Mongoose, could you sort me a matching cleft to the �400 bat? Genuinely interested.

Tom · « **Reply #18 on:** February 18, 2010, 04:17:16 PM »

You personally think it's better value, but in terms of profit and monetary terms I would guess you make a larger profit. Is the Kahuna 1000 the biggest profit making bat? Did you turn a larger profit? Also bear in mind �330 is not the standard retail selling price of a Kahuna 1000. �280 is, meaning they have a spare �120 in order to fritter on maybe a pair of the pads.

You've also lost me on the 2nd bit, we don't offer/sell part mades. And having never seen that cleft I can't say if we can match it.

Fair enough comment on brands/bats you've used, if it's (No Swearing Please) fair enough but sometimes it just seems you post in order to belittle other brands and big up Talisman/Newbery/blokewhodoesn'tmakebatsforaliving etc

procricket · « **Reply #19 on:** February 18, 2010, 04:20:12 PM »

i can get you a 30 grainer no heartwood light cleft for 200 pound and i will say no more and it will be grade 1 and this is not for sale it will be for me and before anybody ask no i can not get you one. This is not a go at anybody in anyway i just stating a fact and will post the pictures when it comes

SillyShilly · « **Reply #20 on:** February 18, 2010, 04:23:29 PM »

"I can get you a 30 grainer" - "this is not for sale it will be for me" - "no i can not get you one" -........ummmmm, anyone else confused???

procricket · « **Reply #21 on:** February 18, 2010, 04:25:53 PM »

sorry what i saying is i have a bat coming in and it will have 30 grains and be of the best possible grade and be a very low density cleft. and iam paying 200 for it after my venture into getting a signature failed because i got the remfry coming

SillyShilly · « **Reply #22 on:** February 18, 2010, 04:27:27 PM »

be good to see pics of it when it does, who is shaping it for you?

procricket · « **Reply #23 on:** February 18, 2010, 04:30:29 PM »

you should know were i get my bats from i only go too 2 two places for bats

oh forgot got one off asad that is a belter to

Alvaro · « **Reply #24 on:** February 18, 2010, 04:33:21 PM »

Kahuna 1000 is probably a much bigger profit-making bat overall. The talisman was a one-off, so a nice profit there in a range of one, rather than x amount of kooks.

procricket · « **Reply #25 on:** February 18, 2010, 04:34:40 PM »

i to be honest dont care about profit margins lets be fair if you get a cracker no matter who makes it it always worth it to you the buyer

Tom · « **Reply #26 on:** February 18, 2010, 04:36:34 PM »

Alvaro. I would guess that depends on how you interpret bat. I interpreted it as a singular, i.e it makes the most out of any bat for each one sold.

You've interpreted it as bat model, in which case I would also disagree.

Talisman · « **Reply #27 on:** February 18, 2010, 04:37:54 PM »

Well if you want to know the cost of that cleft is was exactly double that of a grade 1 cleft, and I would not have made a bigger profit than that of a �280 Kookaburra, mainly because Indian bats are so cheap compared to English made, let alone the way I had mine made. The profit margin does not impact on the value of a bat, should I be able to knock up Pro bats for �1 would I have to sell them very cheaply? Surely the quality of the product defines the value of it?

I was referring to the fact that you offer a custom made experience as the top option from Mongoose but you stated elsewhere on the forum that you don't make from clefts for the customer in front of them because the glue on the handles takes too long to set, so therefore you offer part made's to the customer. Since you are involved in the marketing and sales of cricket bats I thought you would be able with some high def pictures be able to match a cleft to them. If you can please let me know.

As for comments on bats, is that not the purpose of the forum, you did start the whole thing. As for bigging up Talisman, I would believe in the company I started as my founding reasons are quite strong, Newbery are in my opinion a quality company, blokeswhodoesn'tmakebatsforaliving must be Mongoose and I love the marketing success Marcus has achieved, something I would love to emulate in time. I do hope that my comments in favour of the BDM/Lavers/Redbacks today alone have not offended you being that they are not Talisman/Newbery.

Talisman · « **Reply #28 on:** February 18, 2010, 04:40:43 PM »

Sorry, it has been pointed out that I also praised Charlie French today as well, very sorry.

Tom · « **Reply #29 on:** February 18, 2010, 04:48:39 PM »

I thought you grew your own willow? If this cleft cost �70 then I apologise. I guess that's what happens when you assume things about the industry like you have tens of times when commenting on willow grading. I If the quality of the product defines the value then why feel the need to comment on other peoples margins? In my opinion there's no need to mention such things, particularly when you're in the same sector as them.

And Mike yes you have praised Redback and the like, but you've also said things such as Redback's will never match the performance of a Talisman. Such things come across as incredibly cocky when you've achieved nothing in cricket yet with the Talisman range.

If you want to buy our �279 bat and visit the factory, select your part made and see it made feel free. But we won't sell the part made on it's own, it's sold as an experience. For more information visit the website www.mongoosecricket.com

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