Topic: IPL 2019 (Read 72266 times)

HellomynameisJ · « **Reply #135 on:** March 27, 2019, 08:05:18 AM »

I have not, all I've seen is the footage of Ashwin pretending to bowl a ball so that buttler would start backing up.

At the end of the day there are two ways you can go about winning, personally it's not the way I would have gone about it.

Kulli · « **Reply #136 on:** March 27, 2019, 08:10:15 AM »

https://twitter.com/TheJoshya/status/1110403431364263936

https://twitter.com/mahadada/status/1110350455681544193

These changed my mind to a degree in this particular case, he clearly had a bad habit of leaving his ground too early, not saying it's deliberate, but he does gain an advantage by doing so.

csnew · « **Reply #137 on:** March 27, 2019, 09:46:46 AM »

Quote from: Kulli on March 27, 2019, 08:10:15 AM

https://twitter.com/TheJoshya/status/1110403431364263936

https://twitter.com/mahadada/status/1110350455681544193

These changed my mind to a degree in this particular case, he clearly had a bad habit of leaving his ground too early, not saying it's deliberate, but he does gain an advantage by doing so.

The commentators are usually quick to say "good running, turning 1s into 2s". Think it's about time they also changed slightly and said he's stealing a few cm to turn that 1 into 2

jonny77 · « **Reply #138 on:** March 27, 2019, 10:18:57 AM »

Theres also screenshots on Twitter from the same game showing other batsmen on both sides doing the same. Not saying it's right but if Kings Xl were cruising to a win would Ashwin have done it? In the rules or not I'm not a fan. Much like the Elliott/Collingwood incident years ago, was in the rules but I didn't agree with Collingwoods decision.

Would be interesting to see an overlay of Ashwins full action over the top of the one where he mankadded to see where Butler was when he would have released the ball normally.

Kulli · « **Reply #139 on:** March 27, 2019, 10:28:07 AM »

Quote from: jonny77 on March 27, 2019, 10:18:57 AM

Theres also screenshots on Twitter from the same game showing other batsmen on both sides doing the same. Not saying it's right but if Kings Xl were cruising to a win would Ashwin have done it? In the rules or not I'm not a fan. Much like the Elliott/Collingwood incident years ago, was in the rules but I didn't agree with Collingwoods decision.

Would be interesting to see an overlay of Ashwins full action over the top of the one where he mankadded to see where Butler was when he would have released the ball normally.

Yup, I'm sure Buttler isn't the only one with this issue. ideally I'd like to see batsmen made to back up properly instead of a heap of Mankads, the short format game is alredy hugely weighted against bowlers as it is.

beaver5 · « **Reply #140 on:** March 27, 2019, 02:06:39 PM »

You teach kids at school to start to walk as the bowler bowls. It's always been considered good practice to teach this, but now they are saying it's cheating! This is a rubbish rule! If teams start doing this on a Saturday then it won't be long before we'll be reading about the ensuing punch up in the papers.

fros23 · « **Reply #141 on:** March 27, 2019, 03:26:01 PM »

Ashwin going round the park today

rickjames · « **Reply #142 on:** March 27, 2019, 04:01:16 PM »

If there's one bloke you don't want to bowl off a no ball it's Dre Russ, poor captaincy from Ashwin

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #143 on:** March 27, 2019, 04:27:30 PM »

Quote from: rickjames on March 27, 2019, 04:01:16 PM

If there's one bloke you don't want to bowl off a no ball it's Dre Russ, poor captaincy from Ashwin

That said you at this level he would expect the fielders to know where they should be

Mister Le Chiffre · « **Reply #144 on:** March 27, 2019, 05:10:10 PM »

Russell doesn�t look 100% fit but heck is he an outstanding T20 player.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #145 on:** March 27, 2019, 05:39:55 PM »

Quote from: beaver5 on March 27, 2019, 02:06:39 PM

You teach kids at school to start to walk as the bowler bowls. It's always been considered good practice to teach this, but now they are saying it's cheating! This is a rubbish rule! If teams start doing this on a Saturday then it won't be long before we'll be reading about the ensuing punch up in the papers.

Walking as the bowler bowls is fine... you don�t have to leave your crease though.. leaving your crease is stealing years. It�s really simple to stay in your crease until you know the ball has been released.

hammersjr · « **Reply #146 on:** March 27, 2019, 06:09:59 PM »

Backing KKR to go far this year

Tom · « **Reply #147 on:** March 27, 2019, 06:47:03 PM »

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2019/03/27/mcc-u-turn-ravi-ashwins-mankad-jos-buttler-reflection-think/
MCC have now declared this particular incident against the Spirit of Cricket

InternalTraining · « **Reply #148 on:** March 27, 2019, 07:24:58 PM »

Quote from: Tom on March 27, 2019, 06:47:03 PM

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2019/03/27/mcc-u-turn-ravi-ashwins-mankad-jos-buttler-reflection-think/
MCC have now declared this particular incident against the Spirit of Cricket

Bravo MCC! Finally you grew a spine and told the truth.

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�We believe the pause was too long between the time Ashwin reached the crease and the moment it was reasonable to expect the ball would be delivered,� Stewart explained, referring to Ashwin�s pause in the crease - before pulling out of his delivery and running out Buttler who was backing up. �When Buttler could have reasonably expected the ball to be delivered, he was in his ground.�

InternalTraining · « **Reply #149 on:** March 27, 2019, 07:28:15 PM »

And more from MCC:

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�We didn�t come down either way (in the original statement),� Stewart went on, rejecting the accusation that MCC had changed course. �We now think at the key moment Buttler was in his ground.�

Critics might argue that the ground has shifted. MCC�s original statement was on the lines of �caveat emptor� - that the non-striker had to take full responsibility for not backing up too far.

Now the most telling argument seems to be: what would happen if every bowler did the same as Ashwin? Come to a standstill, would be the answer, and create intense animosity.

MCC have been reading my posts.

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