Topic: SA vs PAK (Read 19808 times)

mo_town · « **Reply #75 on:** January 08, 2019, 09:27:41 AM »

Disagree on the talent being there...most of these players are white ball specialists who just do not have the game for the longer format.

stevat · « **Reply #76 on:** January 08, 2019, 09:46:26 AM »

I know Amir is not exactly in form at the moment, but on the whole I think their attack is pretty decent. Abbas is perpetually dangerous, Yasir is a great bowler. I reckon any attack would struggle given the runs they've had to defend recently. Do they still try and set attacking fields?

They need to unearth a batsman or two, Shan Masood seems to have found a bit of form recently, but they need someone to go big more often. Not easy against Steyn, Philander, Rabada and Olivier on them tracks mind.

ajerz · « **Reply #77 on:** January 08, 2019, 02:22:21 PM »

Quote from: mo_town on January 08, 2019, 09:27:41 AM

Disagree on the talent being there...most of these players are white ball specialists who just do not have the game for the longer format.

The talent is there. Apart from Fakhar, who else is the white ball specialists in that playing XI? Even with Fakhar I think if given time he can evolve into a suitable opening option in the longer format, much like how Warner did for Aus, It's his 1st time touring South Africa against a world class bowling attack, there have been many a player with better test credentials that have struggled in that part of the world.

ajerz · « **Reply #78 on:** January 08, 2019, 02:37:16 PM »

Quote from: stevat on January 08, 2019, 09:46:26 AM

I know Amir is not exactly in form at the moment, but on the whole I think their attack is pretty decent. Abbas is perpetually dangerous, Yasir is a great bowler. I reckon any attack would struggle given the runs they've had to defend recently. Do they still try and set attacking fields?

They need to unearth a batsman or two, Shan Masood seems to have found a bit of form recently, but they need someone to go big more often. Not easy against Steyn, Philander, Rabada and Olivier on them tracks mind.

I agree with you in regards to not having the backing of the batters to put up a reasonable score, as you said most attacks would probably struggle to compete if their batsman had failed like Pak did. But I can also see where Sarfaraz is coming from, its hard to compete against an attack which consists of 3 guys bowling 145KPH when our 'fast' bowlers are bowling noticeably slower. In regards with the batting, the way Barbar has played the last 12 months he has shown he has the ability and appetite to play this form of the game, Haaris was doing a good job also before his injury. As you stated Shan looks like he's worked on his game and his last 3 innings have been very promising. The shame has really been the 3 senior guys Azhar and Sarfaraz have just not been up to the mark since the 'misyou' retirements and Shafiq keeps getting out at the wrong time, which is especially annoying as he has the ability to be in the top 10 in the world. This is not what you want from your 3 most experienced batters, puts so much pressure on the younger/ inexperienced guys. The next game will be the test test match for Pak for a while, it will be interesting if they give Rizwan a go, he had a fantastic season with the 'A' team.

mo_town · « **Reply #79 on:** January 08, 2019, 02:47:25 PM »

The biggest issue in the Pak team is sadly the captain of the team. Doesn't merit a place in the XI and weakens an inexperienced middle order. The margin of the defeats would have been embarrassing if not for the cameos played by Babar.

Cover_Drive · « **Reply #80 on:** January 08, 2019, 03:36:55 PM »

Quote from: stevat on January 08, 2019, 09:46:26 AM

I know Amir is not exactly in form at the moment, but on the whole I think their attack is pretty decent. Abbas is perpetually dangerous, Yasir is a great bowler. I reckon any attack would struggle given the runs they've had to defend recently. Do they still try and set attacking fields?

They need to unearth a batsman or two, Shan Masood seems to have found a bit of form recently, but they need someone to go big more often. Not easy against Steyn, Philander, Rabada and Olivier on them tracks mind.

When was the last time Amir was in form?

CricketXI · « **Reply #81 on:** January 08, 2019, 07:18:23 PM »

Yeah,they lost the series. But there is nothing that bad about this series.
We have seen previous teams from sub-continent to come to SA and fail.

For most of them its just their 1st or 2nd tour to SA, this is bound to happen.
They made some mistakes with team selections and some poor batting effort has caused them this dismal show.

Hit or Miss (Overly aggressive)players like Zaman can not play 50 over or a test format with only 1 dimension to their cricketing abilities.
Player in past and present with such an intent and better technique than Zaman like Jayasuria, Razaq, Gilly, Afridi (Players of past), Munro,Butler,Maxwell (Current players), have atleast 2 suites to offer to the team to compensate for here and there failures.

Do not know how fit was Abbas and with such pace he is going to get hit and once teams adopt attacking plan against him.

Sarfarz is complaining about the bowling but they have tried to get Pak in the match multiple times its their batting that needs to be looked at.
No bowling side can restrict an opponent under 150 in the forth innings unless the pitch is offering hell lot of assistance to the bowlers, remember in the first test they have to restrict SA under 150 and under 50 in the second test.

Mister Le Chiffre · « **Reply #82 on:** January 10, 2019, 01:45:38 PM »

Dean Elgar will captain the hosts in the absence of du Plessis. Markram struggling with injury could be two debutants

Is Yasir Shah really 'world class'? He's very similar to R Ashwin, unplayable on turning tracks. But both Shah and Ashwin don't use their bodies that much in subcontinent conditions. When they play overseas they have to put extra on to each delivery and are generally ineffective.

Mister Le Chiffre · « **Reply #83 on:** January 11, 2019, 10:08:08 AM »

Third test started in Johannesburg this morning, Elgar won the toss and opted to bat. Markram was passed fit so the solitary change was Zubayr Hamza replacing the suspended Faf du Plessis. Hamza is the 100th debutant post re-admission, fitting he's a coloured player.

Three changes for Pakistan Shadab, Ashraf and Hasan replace Fakhar, Yashir and Shaheen. Once again Pakistan changing bowlers when batting is the liability.

South Africa 108-1 Markram 78* making it look easy

csnew · « **Reply #84 on:** January 11, 2019, 11:34:24 AM »

Markram was making it look easy - unlucky to be caught down the leg side or as the Aussie commentators would say, the tactic worked.

mo_town · « **Reply #85 on:** January 11, 2019, 12:04:33 PM »

Why was Shaheen dropped? Thought he was their best bowler in the last match. Clearly Pak are expecting this pitch to turn square, picking two spinners.

ajerz · « **Reply #86 on:** January 11, 2019, 12:32:06 PM »

Bloody Hell Hasan making me eat my words, he's getting absolutely slaughtered today current figures 12-0-72-0.

csnew · « **Reply #87 on:** January 11, 2019, 01:00:14 PM »

Hasan ali reminds me of Sami, someone who thinks he�s better than he is and happy to over celebrate wickets like a prat.

Heard a lot about this lad hamza, he looks class so far

csnew · « **Reply #88 on:** January 11, 2019, 01:44:12 PM »

Complete contrast in this session with the ball reversing. Amir and Abbas all over the middle order

ajerz · « **Reply #89 on:** January 11, 2019, 02:20:58 PM »

Hasan joins the Party too, 2 quick wickets. I wouldn't compare him to Sami. Hasan is a genuine wicket taker (albeit expensive at times) and if you look at his test record over the past 12 months he's done well when ever given the chance- also give adds a little extra spice to the attack.

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