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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #45 on: April 24, 2019, 02:44:29 PM »

this may not coincide with the stories on here but i met stokes while in st Lucia and he couldn't have been nicer, willing to talk even after a rubbish tour and while on a day off (day after the test)

was walking back to their hotel with Jimmy, Curran, Jennings and Mark Wood all of them were lovely, willing to have a chat etc

I genuinely think stokes is trying to make up for indiscretions in the past and make sure they dont happen again!

I cant speak for hales as i havent met him but people on here who have, dont have the same impression i got from stokes which says a lot to me.

I would also like to add im a fan of hales the cricketer and a notts fan so hope he can turn it around, put the ego away sort his issues and get back to scoring big runs for notts and england! its difficult times where people need support (and the occasional strong word) not to be cut down in public


Not talking about Stokes specifically, but one of the things you learn about psychos is that they can also be the most charming men in the room when they're in the right mood. I've played cricket with plenty of characters like this, some more manageable than others.

There was a documentary a few months ago on different psychological conditions that make people susceptible to causing crime - one was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermittent_explosive_disorder - basically an otherwise normal person who is totally unable to control their emotions in certain highly stressful situations. I wouldn't be surprised if Stokes suffered from this. (It would also partly explain the 2016 world cup final.)
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #46 on: April 24, 2019, 02:57:45 PM »


Not talking about Stokes specifically, but one of the things you learn about psychos is that they can also be the most charming men in the room when they're in the right mood. I've played cricket with plenty of characters like this, some more manageable than others.

There was a documentary a few months ago on different psychological conditions that make people susceptible to causing crime - one was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermittent_explosive_disorder - basically an otherwise normal person who is totally unable to control their emotions in certain highly stressful situations. I wouldn't be surprised if Stokes suffered from this. (It would also partly explain the 2016 world cup final.)

interesting, in fact its fascinating, i would agree that there were issues previously

however i think with his performances and general attitude since returning, in front of the media and on the field that he is determined to right the wrongs.

i know for a fact that hes cu the booze out (mostly) which i think was a massive contributor, plenty of fans had seen the England lads out and stokes was on soft drinks, by all accounts thats a big change

Like i say only one persons thoughts and opinions.
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #47 on: April 24, 2019, 04:37:13 PM »

My opinion for what it's worth......not a lot as I only know what I hear and see. So apologies in advance if I seem judgemental (or just mental!)

I would like to see Hales in the ODI squad...why? Because he is the perfect replacement if any one of the top 5 batsmen get injured. I know there are probably other "replacements" but Hales has more than proven himself and is the absolute "no-brainer" replacement.
Now onto his behaviour. Bristol with Stokes - he looked like a thug but that is all water under the bridge now. But we have seen Stokes change his attitude and knuckle down and work on cricket - has Stokes "grown up" or will he still go out and get hammered? The Bristol nightclub event was his low point and gave him a serious wake-up call and he has seemed to made a real effort to concentrate on his cricket and I hope he succeeds.

It looks from all the rumours as though Hales has not quite had the same attitude? If Bristol was a wake-up call, it possibly wasn't his low point yet!! It sounds as though Hales may have a collection of issues to sort out! Affair(s), a few lines too often, his temper and attitude? All are rumours but if he has this many issues, then I honestly think that he needs to step back for a couple of months or more to sort his life out!
If these rumours are all true, then he should be nowhere near the World Cup in all honesty! He needs time and help to get himself sorted and any damaged relationships and addictions addressed.
Whether he is a knob or not, I wish him well. And I know that some of the biggest sporting icons have had massive imperfections and addictions...just look at James Hunt, Ian Botham and George Best to name a few! But I hope that Hales sorts his life out and becomes a better person for it....
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #48 on: April 24, 2019, 09:16:32 PM »


The ECB only have themselves to blame for this mess. Both Stokes and Hales have been totally out of control for half a decade. Cocaine, drinking during games, repeated drink-driving, serial adultery including with team-mates partners, circulating obscene images, fights, assaults - and rather than confront the situation, the ECB turn a blind other and instead expend their efforts covering it up and keeping it out of the papers. Its a miracle the lengths they went to to keep Stokes out of jail.


Compare and contrast to how Ulster and Irish rugby dealt with Paddy Jackson and his cronies. Found not guilty, but still told in no uncertain terms to find new careers as they'd never play professional rugby again. If only the ECB had that level of decency and integrity.

Is it just me or is Stokes not the player that scored a double hundred in Cape Town?
He seems to have lost his way as a batter- but that could be down to our top order problems. He feels he has to bat cautiously when he is at his best when given free reign.
We seem to be dishing out a lot of negativity to these guys.

At least they aren’t cheats who hide sandpaper down their trousers.
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #49 on: April 25, 2019, 11:32:15 AM »

Is it just me or is Stokes not the player that scored a double hundred in Cape Town?
He seems to have lost his way as a batter- but that could be down to our top order problems. He feels he has to bat cautiously when he is at his best when given free reign.
We seem to be dishing out a lot of negativity to these guys.

At least they aren’t cheats who hide sandpaper down their trousers.

He's batting too high. He's a counter-attacking number 7 being asked to bat 5.

A lot of the negativity is directed at the ECB, who have grossly mismanaged the situation.
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #50 on: April 25, 2019, 07:04:06 PM »

He's batting too high. He's a counter-attacking number 7 being asked to bat 5.

A lot of the negativity is directed at the ECB, who have grossly mismanaged the situation.

This..

Stokes has never and will never be a test cricket top six batsmen
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #51 on: April 25, 2019, 09:54:29 PM »

Nope, he can only be one at a time.
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #52 on: April 26, 2019, 03:19:26 PM »

21 day ban for recreational drug use
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #53 on: April 26, 2019, 03:20:52 PM »

21 day ban for recreational drug use

where you hearing this mate? got a link?
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #54 on: April 26, 2019, 03:22:02 PM »

« Last Edit: April 26, 2019, 03:33:19 PM by Buzz »
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #55 on: April 26, 2019, 03:24:20 PM »

The Guardian

got it cheers!

not good! another incident and its 12 month ban an potential sacking!

hope he can overcome this and sort his issues!
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #56 on: April 26, 2019, 03:29:17 PM »

Seems it's the second time he has failed it. It's pretty well known he like a substance so he is probably lucky it's only the second time.

Side note bat nerd comment - has anyone seen the bat in the photo near the end of the article, the toe looks massive!!
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #57 on: April 26, 2019, 03:31:15 PM »

Absolute tool
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #58 on: April 26, 2019, 03:32:52 PM »

Side note bat nerd comment - has anyone seen the bat in the photo near the end of the article, the toe looks massive!!

Kronus stickers, looks similar to the Omega he used during his test stint, probably his shape from GN looks lovely!
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Re: Alex hales
« Reply #59 on: April 26, 2019, 03:37:40 PM »

There have been some high profile cases over the last decade of cricketers who have suffered from mental health problems but it seems to me that we have barely scratched the surface when it comes to creating am environment where players feel able to speak openly about their problems and where appropriate support is put in place. I hope Hales can get to a place where he is able manage the issues in his life
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