Topic: Bats peaking... (Read 5905 times)

Yorkershire · « **on:** August 16, 2019, 05:02:37 PM »

Okay, I have made the controversial decision of not buying another bat and continue using my 2 bats for next season:

- GM Noir 808 - loving this and just amazing value at this price point - I'm sure some brands may have sneaked this into G1 territory.
- Dare I say it... a used pro bat from a 'Bat Medic in Bristol' - but only bought because the shape is very similar to my Noir and was pretty reasonably priced - I still prefer the GM but a friend and my brother who have borrowed it were really impressed.

The GM is my main bat as I started the season with it and use the other bat for 20 20 and spare.

I've often found bats for me often come into their own after a season's use, no explanation for this but just from past experience. But I've found myself selling bats and buying new ones and not persisting with the same bat into the second season.

Loving my GM and I really think it's getting better with use and think it will be flying next season...

Love to hear if people have had similar experiences?

Mfarank · « **Reply #1 on:** August 16, 2019, 05:32:58 PM »

Absolutely! Both my BB and SS bats have only gotten better over time. And the GM Neon 808 i purchased in feb is turning into a real beast after being my exclusive net bat for so long

SD · « **Reply #2 on:** August 16, 2019, 06:44:22 PM »

It is a generalisation but I would certainly say that most of my bats are better in their second season than in their first. It seems old fashioned now to play a bat in but I still think it gets the best out of a bat

InternalTraining · « **Reply #3 on:** August 16, 2019, 07:01:15 PM »

Bat prep and peaking is a long process that requires patience and multiple seasons. Even the great bats made by master batmakers take their time to peak. We clubbies simply don't spend as much time as pros do in the nets.

Use your old bat and prepare news ones for the future. I have two match bats and couple of bats being kncoked in nets for the future. It is good fun to get these bats ready.

Yorkershire · « **Reply #4 on:** August 16, 2019, 07:07:42 PM »

Yup, and buying new bats and wanting to use them I think doesn't give current bats time to play in... I don't play enough cricket for a bat to peak in the first season...

Maybe I do need to buy my bat for 2021 season now and play it over the next season or so in the nets.... could be great strategic thinking!

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #5 on:** August 16, 2019, 07:08:58 PM »

I can honestly say for me that my bats that make it into my keep selection including this season like you a Noir always get better at the end of the season or the next season. I play about 10 league games a season and have used the same match bat all season which is my Noir and now I would say it�s started to peak now.

I have started over the last two years to prep next seasons match bat in nets this season so Iv been using a Keeley approx 1 every 2 weeks for an hour which means I have a match bat that�s had some really good prep work.

Komdotkom · « **Reply #6 on:** August 16, 2019, 09:08:45 PM »

What does everyone think about the effects of Bola machines on bats? I've heard quite a few people say that extended use will damage the bat, but it's a great way to put a few hours on a new stick. Of course nothing beats time at the crease but for those of use who only make fleeting trips to the middle, is there any 'science' to the assertion that Bola machines are bad for bats because it seems like a great way to get them well played in.

Kulli · « **Reply #7 on:** August 16, 2019, 09:13:04 PM »

Quote from: Komdotkom on August 16, 2019, 09:08:45 PM

What does everyone think about the effects of Bola machines on bats? I've heard quite a few people say that extended use will damage the bat, but it's a great way to put a few hours on a new stick. Of course nothing beats time at the crease but for those of use who only make fleeting trips to the middle, is there any 'science' to the assertion that Bola machines are bad for bats because it seems like a great way to get them well played in.

Definitely seems to cause delamination with extended use.

Gurujames · « **Reply #8 on:** August 16, 2019, 09:32:00 PM »

Is that because of the balls or because you are grooving a shot and hitting the same part of the bat repeatedly?

Kulli · « **Reply #9 on:** August 16, 2019, 09:34:58 PM »

Quote from: Gurujames on August 16, 2019, 09:32:00 PM

Is that because of the balls or because you are grooving a shot and hitting the same part of the bat repeatedly?

Pretty sure it�s to do with the balls, never seen it when doing just throw downs or even using cricket balls on a machine.

Either way I tend to use an old bat for bowling machine work unless I have one that�s still needing knocked/played in.

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 16, 2019, 10:17:37 PM »

Quote from: Komdotkom on August 16, 2019, 09:08:45 PM

What does everyone think about the effects of Bola machines on bats? I've heard quite a few people say that extended use will damage the bat, but it's a great way to put a few hours on a new stick. Of course nothing beats time at the crease but for those of use who only make fleeting trips to the middle, is there any 'science' to the assertion that Bola machines are bad for bats because it seems like a great way to get them well played in.

Never had an issue and it�s how I prep all my bats mainly, of course some gentle bowling when the bats new against decent old league balls but a Bola has never caused any of my bats any issue at all and I reckon they face about 500 or so before they become a match bat

InternalTraining · « **Reply #11 on:** August 16, 2019, 10:30:35 PM »

Many moons ago, I posted about Bola balls damaging bats and faced a wave of skepticism and disbelief.

Tip came from the Laver team.

I avoid Bola (Pro or hard red balls) because of consistency of the spot and hardness of the balls themselves. Bola JR balls are safe and I use them a lot. I normally don't have net bowlers as quick as a Bola machine. Funnily enough, we recently did an experiment with a baseball speed gun to clock bowling speeds of human bowlers and they were on the low side.

Kulli · « **Reply #12 on:** August 16, 2019, 11:42:33 PM »

Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on August 16, 2019, 10:17:37 PM

Never had an issue and it�s how I prep all my bats mainly, of course some gentle bowling when the bats new against decent old league balls but a Bola has never caused any of my bats any issue at all and I reckon they face about 500 or so before they become a match bat

I don�t think your taking about any real damage from hitting 500 balls (as I said I like it to knock bats in), but I do think the guys I know who use the machine constantly give me a lot more delaminates bats to repair than those who don�t. We�re taking maybe 100+ balls a week.

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #13 on:** August 17, 2019, 07:13:35 AM »

Quote from: Kulli on August 16, 2019, 11:42:33 PM

I don�t think your taking about any real damage from hitting 500 balls (as I said I like it to knock bats in), but I do think the guys I know who use the machine constantly give me a lot more delaminates bats to repair than those who don�t. We�re taking maybe 100+ balls a week.

If you hit a cricket ball 100+ times a week than eventually a bat will delaminate. I understand the risk with a Bola machine is the continued repeat and hitting the same part of the bat but I don�t feel they are any worse than a cricket ball for damaging your bat over pro-longer period of time. I have 1 bat that must have faced 10,000+ balls both Bola and normal and apart from the odd bit of damage it�s almost perfect still .
The factor to consider is what type of player you are, I don�t �whack� a ball and rely totally on timing and placement to score runs, if you swing from the hip a bit more than there is a higher chance of causing some damage to a bat via Bola or other balls. Just my view

Kulli · « **Reply #14 on:** August 17, 2019, 08:56:39 AM »

You could be right, it may not be the balls themselves.

It might be that you get 100 hittable balls on 10 minutes rather than 30-40 in nets. Or that often people stand there hitting drive after drive out of the same spot. Either way I avoid using my match/best bats on the machine after they�re run in.

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