Topic: England tour of New Zealand 2019/20 (Read 62943 times)

alexhilly1492 · « **Reply #315 on:** December 01, 2019, 09:16:52 AM »

Quote from: csnew on December 01, 2019, 08:22:35 AM

No surprise that roots got a 100 on a road

No surprise people are taking away from his 100

You'd be criticising him if he failed with England so far behind!

Can't have it both ways!

Good from root yesterday looked much better! Needs to kick on in the morning and get a buggy if we get close to parity game is as good as over with the time left

Well batted Joe (and Rory) keep going!

jonny77 · « **Reply #316 on:** December 01, 2019, 10:00:27 AM »

Gotta say I agree mate, he frankly can't win. Everyone's been calling out for Root to kick on to a ton, yet when he does it's a road. Plenty have failed on it tho and NZ haven't got the worst attack out there.

Some fairly big assumptions being made on what's seen from thousands of miles away too. Unless we've got some inside info? You may not rate Roots captaincy, but remember he's working without a top class spinner, a half cooked Stokes, half a new batting line up and without our one world class seamer with over 500 wickets to his name. Not quite as easy as it seems maybe?

We're a team in transition and it'll take some time. Think we have to take these things into consideration and these points wouldn't change just by changing captain. Also, who else is there we'd like to see take charge?

alexhilly1492 · « **Reply #317 on:** December 01, 2019, 10:07:28 AM »

Exactly! So much more than we see as fans even though we get more access than ever

On the more of captaincy I'm not a root fan and think Burns is the best bet, he however needs to settle in to opening first

I think his captaincy is having a negative effect on the rest of his game but root is our captain and will have my support whatever happens

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #318 on:** December 01, 2019, 01:16:01 PM »

We need to stop treating every other Test series as 'preparation for the Ashes'?

billyb · « **Reply #319 on:** December 01, 2019, 03:41:30 PM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on December 01, 2019, 01:16:01 PM

We need to stop treating every other Test series as 'preparation for the Ashes'?

Exactly this. Hopefully this new Test Championship will add some motivation to that.

We are definitely a side in transition. When you look at the team sheet, not many players pick themselves it seems. Burns, Root, Stokes, Broad, Anderson. It seems the rest still need to prove themselves- even Woakes in the eyes of the selectors.

Buzz · « **Reply #320 on:** December 01, 2019, 04:21:07 PM »

I have been ranting about this a little on Twitter, but it is very apparent that the English batters aren't nearly as technically able as the kiwi batsmen.

When defending our batsmen play from the crease half forward. When the Kiwis bat the get they heads towards the ball and are much closer to the pitch of the ball.

This awful English approach is something they have been doing for a while, but it has become a trend now.
What it means is they batsmen are much too deep in the crease playing "forward" and are making it much harder to rotate the strike.
As well as making lbws more likely.

This is a techniques thing that I think Ramps and Thorpe are pushing. Needless to say I am not a fan.
Even Stokes now is taking a massive back and across move which is why he was out as he was no where near the pitch when playing his shot.
Stokes is supposed to be our most technically able player and he is being wrecked.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #321 on:** December 01, 2019, 04:28:51 PM »

He had a few lives and on another day could have been out for a lot less but well batted burns and root seems to have dropped his large back and across crap. Still not getting into thr ball hence his driving power being down but meh. Runs were needed for the lad.

Agree with buzz though, worrying trend in England�s batters and we still have no one bar root avg�ing anything like what is required.

SouthpawMark · « **Reply #322 on:** December 01, 2019, 09:41:36 PM »

Pope looks so good. If he doesn�t retire having scored 10,000+ test runs I�ll give my GN Legend bat away for free.

FattusCattus · « **Reply #323 on:** December 01, 2019, 10:05:19 PM »

Still confused about Archer - don't get the bowling within yourself, don't get the early 80's spells. Why have a shotgun that fires gobstoppers?

If it's the captain - WHAT ARE YOU THINKING! Use him like you should, 3-4 overs nasty spells.

If it's the bowler - pull you're f*cking finger out, and put a shift in for your teammates!!!

Life is not a rehearsal, get dem wickets!!!!

SD · « **Reply #324 on:** December 01, 2019, 10:38:51 PM »

Archer shouldn't be on this tour. Guys that can crank it up to 90mph+ a few and far between and you have to look after them. Root bowled Archer into the ground during the Ashes after an exhausting world cup. Not a surprise if you drag him away for an overseas tour without a proper break.

Personally I don't think any of the test team who were involved in the world cup should have flown across the world for a 2-test series so soon after the end of the English season. Like the limited over a squad, it would have been better to send a development squad

Mister Le Chiffre · « **Reply #325 on:** December 01, 2019, 11:02:59 PM »

Can't we stop this nonsense about Archer 'being tired' or 'sulking with Root'.

Everyone seems to be forgetting he's not been playing as much red ball cricket as the other guys that are actual fast bowlers.

Archer's was essentially a T20 globetrotter. Then suddenly the residency rules changed to shoehorn him into the England setup. He used up a lot of energy during the WC and Ashes. Probably the most he's played in a long time. The tank is probably flashing empty.

He's clearing not got the miles in his legs and it's looking out of sorts. This nonsense that 'he can bowl 95mph' means nothing.

Give him 200 overs for Sussex and he'll be back in the groove.

jonny77 · « **Reply #326 on:** December 01, 2019, 11:19:08 PM »

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jamesisapayne · « **Reply #327 on:** December 01, 2019, 11:24:30 PM »

Good lad Billy.

Some of the absolute tosh written on here is laughable, written by people who haven't been anywhere near a first class setup, yet come across like they've got a test batting average of 99 and bowling average of 20.

rickjames · « **Reply #328 on:** December 01, 2019, 11:41:50 PM »

Good partnership between Root and Pope, need to crack on with it if they're serious about pushing for a win

billyb · « **Reply #329 on:** December 01, 2019, 11:43:11 PM »

I think we all just want to see Root scoring the masses of runs that he has within him. He's the best England player of his generation- I don't want him to lose anything via captaincy.

What a fabulous knock this has been so far! I really want Pope to kick on.

I just read that they might recall Jennings for Sri Lanka due to his record in Asia. Makes sense to me!

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