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Re: Massive accusation on GM
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2020, 04:25:54 PM »

In cleft form it’s much easier to tell if you can see the end of the cleft.
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Re: Massive accusation on GM
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2020, 04:30:18 PM »

Do they lie about it and say its EW?
Classed/listed as alternative willow

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Re: Massive accusation on GM
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2020, 04:31:28 PM »

Classed/listed as alternative willow
That is completely fine then. I suspect something similar might be happening at Nottingham as well
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Re: Massive accusation on GM
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2020, 05:02:01 PM »

Does he have proof CA are doing the same and reselling as English Willow... I'! hesitant to buy one now if this is the case!

I very much doubt GM would pass it off as English willow, unless it was being sold to them as 'English willow' without them knowing.
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Re: Massive accusation on GM
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2020, 05:06:01 PM »

Does he have proof CA are doing the same and reselling as English Willow... I'! hesitant to buy one now if this is the case!

I very much doubt GM would pass it off as English willow, unless it was being sold to them as 'English willow' without them knowing.
Nope he doesn't but he says the dragon series, sumo, power etc  are the biggest suspects. Come to think of it, The 50mm dragon i had that broke in 6 months ticked every box of European willow.
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Re: Massive accusation on GM
« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2020, 05:06:10 PM »

Do they even have a pic of a GM bat the suspect is Serbian willow there? Just bloke like a couple of blank clefts.
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Re: Massive accusation on GM
« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2020, 05:55:28 PM »

Clearly a quiet news day...

I miss cricket (and the prospect of cricket) already
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Re: Massive accusation on GM
« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2020, 05:56:43 PM »

Hence the term "accusation" :)
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Re: Massive accusation on GM
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2020, 01:39:52 AM »

Saw some SH kook bats that looked like Serbian willow in Sports direct. They were only £39 and were not labelled as EW. I will take some pictures and send around. A noticeable feature, like on the clefts in this thread, was a good grain structure, but with an extra 'shadow' grain right close to each main grain. Must be something to do with the seasonal climate over there.
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Re: Massive accusation on GM
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2020, 10:02:37 AM »

They can look noticeably different if they have heartwood in them, but if they're all sapwood you pretty much can't tell (I'm sure a genuine expert would have a better chance). In my experience Serbian pings lovely but is very brittle, which I know is why at least one established UK brand didn't buy any more after their first batch.

Is there any more to this than some goon on Facebook throwing around crap and hoping something sticks?

So very similar performance but not as good durability. Anybody know how the clefts vary in price in comparison to EW? Are we looking at half the price of EW?
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Re: Massive accusation on GM
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2020, 10:25:40 AM »

So very similar performance but not as good durability. Anybody know how the clefts vary in price in comparison to EW? Are we looking at half the price of EW?
No, small saving but nowhere near half. Hence why uptake hasn't been all that great.
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Re: Massive accusation on GM
« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2020, 09:07:30 AM »

So the accuser has come back to me with this picture as his "evidence". He says this is serbian willow and not English Willow. What do you guys say? Any serbian willow experts here?
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Re: Massive accusation on GM
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2020, 09:37:35 AM »

Looks like a fake gm.
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Re: Massive accusation on GM
« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2020, 09:39:23 AM »

Looks like a fake gm.
Its a real GM. Maxi 808 from the 2015 range i believe
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Re: Massive accusation on GM
« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2020, 09:41:32 AM »

Doesn't look like Serbian anyway, as far as you can tell from your pal's potato-vision photography. Just a cleft with heartwood. What a waste of time!
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