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Jeff Navarro

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England’s international summer
« on: June 29, 2020, 12:28:23 PM »
Captain Joe Root on daddy duties and misses first Test. Ginger ninja Ben Stokes to be captain
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2020, 01:21:19 PM »
Presume the obvious solution is to pick both Denly and Crawley. They’ll no doubt go with YJB at 4 though🤦‍♂️
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2020, 01:22:24 PM »
Quote from: Kulli on June 29, 2020, 01:21:19 PM
Presume the obvious solution is to pick both Denly and Crawley. They’ll no doubt go with YJB at 4 though🤦‍♂️

Obvious solution but so definitely the wrong one. Burns, Sibley, Crawley in the top 3 and give Dan Lawrence a crack at 4!
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2020, 01:23:36 PM »
Quote from: Kulli on June 29, 2020, 01:21:19 PM
Presume the obvious solution is to pick both Denly and Crawley. They’ll no doubt go with YJB at 4 though🤦‍♂️

I'd bring Lawrence in - Burns Sibley Crawley Lawrence Stokes Pope. Nobody will care if we don't do that well this summer (the ECB just need the broadcast income) and Lawrence has potential to average 50 in Oz for the ashes whereas Denly doesn't. Denly won't be any better or worse if we need to go back to him if one of the young lads fails and their confidence is shot.
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2020, 02:45:17 PM »
What are England going to do with the spin option thou?

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I suspect they want Moeen as first pick
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2020, 06:38:27 PM »
I suspect they want Moeen as well - not so much with a view on the Ashes (I suspect they will go with Bess for a holding role there) but to bulk out the batting.  I'd like to see Lawrence get a go, and would tend to:

Burns
Sibley
Crawley
Lawrence
Stokes
Pope
Foakes/Bairstow
Ali
Archer
Wood
Anderson/Broad
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2020, 06:46:12 PM »
If it’s not Foakes....has Bairstow done anything to deserve a recall?
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2020, 07:42:10 PM »
Aside from 2016, Bairstow remaining 50 odd Tests he averages 28. So no he shouldn’t be anyway near the test squad let alone the playing XI
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2020, 07:59:21 PM »
With Root away I suspect it will be Denly at 4, it would be lovely to see Lawrence but that is giving someone a debut after losing all of Root's experience, so I don't think it's going to happen.

Mo will be the spinner because otherwise our tail is very long indeed.

I think Buttler is going to get 1 last chance as well.

Burns
Sibley
Crawley
Denly
Stokes
Pope
Buttler
Mo
Archer
Broad
Anderson
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2020, 08:33:21 PM »
Although I think it's clear he will play,

Moeen Ali should not be in the xi, he had a self enforced absence and is now 3rd in line behind Bess and Leach, it should stay that way, massively unfair on two spinners who have started their careers well (Bess breakthrough in sa) he needs to play for worcs and earn his spot,

The batsmen should do they're job, pick them to score runs pick bowlers to take wickets with one all rounder (Stokes)
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2020, 08:40:17 PM »
Denly in for me too with an inexperienced top order. I actually think Denly has done well, not fantastic but ground out some runs when we needed....long term Crawley should get better so he is maybe the one who takes Joe's place-and fair enough.
 
England have always wanted runs from the number 8....or the spinner shall we say. Rather than picking the picking the 'best' spin option.

Giles a bit, Swann,woakes,Moeen, Bess...they can all bat. Bess hasn't played much but looks like he could develop into a very handy batsman.

All this is potentially back news for Leach who is the lowest of that group batting wise.

England like Ali thou that's pretty obvious..

Butler does need runs, I hope they stick with him for this series so a fair chance. It's got to be Foakes thou if his time runs out.
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2020, 09:51:39 AM »
Quote from: ppccopener on June 29, 2020, 06:46:12 PM
If it’s not Foakes....has Bairstow done anything to deserve a recall?

We're in danger of rehashing one of the most done to death debates ever here.  I'd go Foakes because this summer is an interesting chance to experiment a bit and his glovework would be very valuable in India in the Winter.  If the selectors wanted someone else, that perceived counter attack from #7, I would always go Bairstow over Buttler - I guess my version of your question would be has Jos done anything to deserve to retain his spot.
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2020, 02:08:30 PM »
Confirmed, root to miss warm up and first test, he leaves camp Wednesday afternoon, Stokes to captain, buttler is vice captain, looks like we know who the keeper will be!
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2020, 02:17:00 PM »
Whilst I think Stokesy will do fine for a game or two, Buttler is meh.
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2020, 07:34:34 PM »
Somewhere, they have listed the 2 internal Eng squad sides who are playing each other. I believe Virdi has missed out for some reason.
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